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Old 09-13-2012, 01:12 PM   #61
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As far as yardage it's a good indicator but the problem is if you have a team like the Pats that score a lot of points, they'll play prevent a lot and give up a lot of yardage in garbage time. Look at the Jets last week, the defense played great but the running yards against are skewed (as well as total yards) because they gave up a crapload when the game was done.

That Ravens defense to me yardage was a good indicator becuase they barely let you move.
obviously yardage isn't a perfect indicator, there is no perfect indicator...

people tend to look at yardage when ranking RBs and WRs too rather than TDs...

PURE RAW YARDAGE is the base measurement in the NFL, it is what leads to scoring, it comes before scoring usually.
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Old 09-13-2012, 01:45 PM   #62
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Falcons/Broncos is going to be a great game. I really think this is the Falcons year to go to the Super Bowl. And the Broncos looked real good on Sunday Night.
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Old 09-13-2012, 01:53 PM   #63
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obviously yardage isn't a perfect indicator, there is no perfect indicator...

people tend to look at yardage when ranking RBs and WRs too rather than TDs...

PURE RAW YARDAGE is the base measurement in the NFL, it is what leads to scoring, it comes before scoring usually.
Scoring isn't a good indicator - i agree.
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Old 09-13-2012, 04:15 PM   #64
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The fact that you can have a team give up 450 yards of offense but still play like a top ten level defense on that given game (the Browns for example from last week) makes the yards argument very weak. It's flawed. When you can have a team go on the wrong side of the spectrum stat wise but in reality still perform at a high level, it's flawed.

When's the last time you seen a team give up 35+ points on defense with little or no turnovers and that be considered a good game? I'll tell you. Never.
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Old 09-13-2012, 04:22 PM   #65
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Falcons/Broncos is going to be a great game. I really think this is the Falcons year to go to the Super Bowl. And the Broncos looked real good on Sunday Night.

I picked ATL.


but it's a coin flip.
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Old 09-13-2012, 04:23 PM   #66
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they have thursday night football this early in the season already
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Old 09-13-2012, 04:34 PM   #67
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The fact that you can have a team give up 450 yards of offense but still play like a top ten level defense on that given game (the Browns for example from last week) makes the yards argument very weak. It's flawed. When you can have a team go on the wrong side of the spectrum stat wise but in reality still perform at a high level, it's flawed.
the Browns D gave up a ton of big plays week, and I not convinced they are the reason for Vick's struggles in the red zone...I think Vick just played bad
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When's the last time you seen a team give up 35+ points on defense with little or no turnovers and that be considered a good game? I'll tell you. Never.
FACT: THIS TEAM ALSO GAVE UP A SHIT TON OF YARDS
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they have thursday night football this early in the season already

Every week from here on.
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Old 09-13-2012, 05:11 PM   #69
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Hopefully i find a good stream.
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Hopefully i find a good stream.

Unfortunately, no matter how good the stream, it'll still be the NFL Network broadcast.

It boggles the mind that a self-promotion machine second only to maybe McDonald's can't deliver a decent broadcast of it's own product.
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how are the Eagles 3 point favorites over the Ravens this Sunday?

makes no sense, might have to reopen my bodog account wtf
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Unfortunately, no matter how good the stream, it'll still be the NFL Network broadcast.

It boggles the mind that a self-promotion machine second only to maybe McDonald's can't deliver a decent broadcast of it's own product.
The Jet game last year, when they were practically yelling at the Jets for not calling a time out WHEN THE JETS DID NOT HAVE A TIME OUT. Both of those shitty announcers.

My wife watches tv next to me so i dont use the sound anyway.
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Old 09-13-2012, 05:24 PM   #73
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how are the Eagles 3 point favorites over the Ravens this Sunday?

makes no sense, might have to reopen my bodog account wtf
yeah, i saw that. i said HEY 3 pts, have to take the Ravens minus three and was corrected that the Eagles were the favorite. Vick is either going to die or turn it over 29 times.
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yeah, i saw that. i said HEY 3 pts, have to take the Ravens minus three and was corrected that the Eagles were the favorite. Vick is either going to die or turn it over 29 times.
this shit really has me wanting to place an online bet now...that line is just REALLY fcked up

what I thought it would be is the Ravens -7...not the Ravens +3



The Ravens looked absolutely AWESOME while the Eagles looked awful...how is this spread the way it is I have no idea
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Old 09-13-2012, 05:35 PM   #75
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this shit really has me wanting to place an online bet now...that line is just REALLY fcked up

what I thought it would be is the Ravens -7...not the Ravens +3



The Ravens looked absolutely AWESOME while the Eagles looked awful...how is this spread the way it is I have no idea
And even if it was opposite a ball hawking team vs. the Eagles and how loose they are with the ball is a terrible matchup.
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