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Old 09-13-2012, 12:57 AM   #16
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Amare pre microfracture in the 04-05 season was nasty. I'll take that version of Amare over any version of Kemp.

Kemp in that situation, with his superior athleticism (yep) and skill, would have been murder.
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Old 09-13-2012, 01:16 AM   #17
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Amare pre microfracture in the 04-05 season was nasty. I'll take that version of Amare over any version of Kemp.

I agree. Amare was nasty before his knee injury. Almost unstoppable around the rim. However his 04-05 season production had a lot to do with Nash coming to the team. Pick n'rolls all day. Amare didn't even have a jumper back then either.

I remember he had a 50 point game that season where he went 20-27, iirc something like 15 of the made fg's were dunks. And then the following game he dropped 34 on 15-19 against Garnett, but again Nash was setting Amare up with open lanes for easy buckets all game.

I'd stll take Kemp though. Stronger on the glass and much better defender. Wasn't too shabby in the paint and above the rim himself.
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Old 09-13-2012, 01:17 AM   #18
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I really didn't get to watch a lot of Kemp, but could anyone see him putting up 37/10 over a series on prime Duncan (yes I know they lost)?
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Old 09-13-2012, 01:26 AM   #19
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I really didn't get to watch a lot of Kemp, but could anyone see him putting up 37/10 over a series on prime Duncan (yes I know they lost)?

Amare and Duncan were going at it that series. Definitely a fun series. But no, I don't see Kemp doing that.
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Old 09-13-2012, 01:28 AM   #20
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Amare. Lmao @ people saying Kemp.
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Old 09-13-2012, 01:44 AM   #21
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I really didn't get to watch a lot of Kemp, but could anyone see him putting up 37/10 over a series on prime Duncan (yes I know they lost)?


Against Malone in '96, he put up 20/9+ on 69% shooting. That includes game 1 where he put up 21/11 on 10/11 shooting. He also averaged 22/14 against Houston that same year. Kemp wasn't the type to score big points like Amare, but he was a much better defender.
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Old 09-13-2012, 01:46 AM   #22
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I really didn't get to watch a lot of Kemp, but could anyone see him putting up 37/10 over a series on prime Duncan (yes I know they lost)?

If Nash was feeding him the ball, possibly.
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Old 09-13-2012, 01:47 AM   #23
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Kemp, a much better defender and rebounder, more dominant.
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Old 09-13-2012, 01:54 AM   #24
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I really didn't get to watch a lot of Kemp, but could anyone see him putting up 37/10 over a series on prime Duncan (yes I know they lost)?

On that team, in that offence - given he had more skill and is more athletic ability - yes I can.

Taking away a terrible game 3 by Seattle overall, he dropped 25/11 against who many deem the best defender ever, against arguably one of the best defensive teams ever, and arguably one of the best teams ever, in the 96 finals.

I can't see Amare doing that.
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Old 09-13-2012, 02:05 AM   #25
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Against Malone in '96, he put up 20/9+ on 69% shooting. That includes game 1 where he put up 21/11 on 10/11 shooting. He also averaged 22/14 against Houston that same year. Kemp wasn't the type to score big points like Amare, but he was a much better defender.

20/9 isn't in the same realm as 37/10 and Malone isn't the same defender as Duncan is either. Those are great shooting numbers tho. Anyone got the shooting %s of the 05 series, I was having trouble finding them.
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Old 09-13-2012, 02:12 AM   #26
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20/9 isn't in the same realm as 37/10 and Malone isn't the same defender as Duncan is either. Those are great shooting numbers tho. Anyone got the shooting %s of the 05 series, I was having trouble finding them.

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Old 09-13-2012, 02:13 AM   #27
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Amare is the softest PF of all time.

this.

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Old 09-13-2012, 02:14 AM   #28
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Old 09-13-2012, 02:18 AM   #29
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Amare is definitely the better #1 option/scorer, but a team lead by him is going nowhere. Kemp definitely could not be the absolute #1 on a title team, but you can win a title with him as the #2. I'm not sure if the same could be said of Amare.

Kemp was a very good defender and rebounder, 2 things Amare is terrible at. Hell Kemp might have been a top 3 defensive PF at that point in time, and he would probably be the best in today's game assuming KG is considered a C right now.
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Amare. Lmao @ people saying Kemp.
Good post, great argument, would read again.
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