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Old 10-11-2012, 11:01 PM   #91
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But if Sara was killed by old Joe after that moment, then he would have even more rage in him, meaning he very easily could still turn into Rainmaker.
Thats the thing, Old Joe should disappear as soon as the field TK thing ended and gone back to his time since if he didn't kill Sara then Cid won't become Rainmaker.
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Old 10-11-2012, 11:06 PM   #92
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Thats the thing, Old Joe should disappear as soon as the field TK thing ended and gone back to his time since if he didn't kill Sara then Cid won't become Rainmaker.
Cid has the abilities. Has the relationship with Loopers. Knows the things young Joe expressed.

Just because he wont be an evil man that reigns terror, doesnt mean that he wont be a rainmaker seeking his version of justice.


Hes still going to become an adult that has more power than anyone in their day has ever encountered.
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Cid has the abilities. Has the relationship with Loopers. Knows the things young Joe expressed.

Just because he wont be an evil man that reigns terror, doesnt mean that he wont be a rainmaker seeking his version of justice.


Hes still going to become an adult that has more power than anyone in their day has ever encountered.
Yeah he could become some other kind of rainmaker...and that has nothing to do with Old Joe
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Old 10-11-2012, 11:09 PM   #94
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Yeah he could become some other kind of rainmaker...and that has nothing to do with Old Joe
It could.. He knows things about loopers. He could make enemies and get his friend's wife killed. Or any other host of things that the future holds.
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Old 10-11-2012, 11:11 PM   #95
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Thats the thing, Old Joe should disappear as soon as the field TK thing ended and gone back to his time since if he didn't kill Sara then Cid won't become Rainmaker.

That... doesn't make any sense. Why did that stop him from killing her? It only delayed it. In fact, that moment didn't stop him from killing anybody. Old Joe injured Cid (Sara wasn't even in the line of fire yet), then Cid had his TK moment which Sara had him stop when they connected emotionally. Not sure how any of that stops Joe from shooting again. It is only after that moment when Sara stepped in front of the gun that would have set up the situation that created Cid as an angry mobster.

I'm honestly completely lost as to how you think that moment stopped Joe. Nobody stopped Joe until young Joe did.
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I'm honestly completely lost as to how you think that moment stopped Joe.


THIS.
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That... doesn't make any sense. Why did that stop him from killing her? It only delayed it. In fact, that moment didn't stop him from killing anybody. Old Joe injured Cid (Sara wasn't even in the line of fire yet), then Cid had his TK moment which Sara had him stop when they connected emotionally. Not sure how any of that stops Joe from shooting again. It is only after that moment when Sara stepped in front of the gun that would have set up the situation that created Cid as an angry mobster.

I'm honestly completely lost as to how you think that moment stopped Joe. Nobody stopped Joe until young Joe did.
Well, assuming Cid connecting with Sara was the thing that prevented him from becoming Rainmaker, then why wouldn't Joe be transported back to the future at that moment? The future was already changed by that moment.
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Well, assuming Cid connecting with Sara was the thing that prevented him from becoming Rainmaker, then why wouldn't Joe be transported back to the future at that moment? The future was already changed by that moment.
You are suffering from tunnel vision. The big picture awaits you.
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You are suffering from the big picture. Tunnel vision awaits you.
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Old 10-11-2012, 11:33 PM   #100
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Well, assuming Cid connecting with Sara was the thing that prevented him from becoming Rainmaker, then why wouldn't Joe be transported back to the future at that moment? The future was already changed by that moment.

His mother being alive and taking care of him was the bigger thing that kept him from becoming Rainmaker.
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His mother being alive and taking care of him was the bigger thing that kept him from becoming Rainmaker.
And that would've happened. Why was he given time to kill Sara and not just transported back to the future?
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Old 10-12-2012, 01:12 AM   #102
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And that would've happened. Why was he given time to kill Sara and not just transported back to the future?

Why does Cid loving his mom stop Joe from killing her? Why does his love for her send him to the future? His lack of love for her wasn't what made him the Rainmaker. It was the killing of his mom whom he loved that made him the Rainmaker.
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This is apparently HUGE in China, opened bigger there than in the US. Has Chinese producers apparently.
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Why does Cid loving his mom stop Joe from killing her? Why does his love for her send him to the future? His lack of love for her wasn't what made him the Rainmaker. It was the killing of his mom whom he loved that made him the Rainmaker.
Because the future change when that happens.
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Because the future change when that happens.

The future was constantly changing throughout the movie. The death of Joe was the only thing that became definite.
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