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Old 09-18-2012, 11:49 PM   #1
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Default Larry Bird is a better passer than Lebron James:

Ball passing skill: (note, not the same thing as "point guard abilities")

Magic Johnson
small gap
Larry Bird
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9o66NdFDHEQ





Gap






Lebron James.




















This coming from an actual unbiased non Bird / Magic / Lebron homer who studies vintage NBA basketball and watched Lebron his entire career.

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Old 09-18-2012, 11:51 PM   #2
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Old 09-18-2012, 11:59 PM   #3
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Default Re: Larry Bird is a better passer than Lebron James:

Saying there is a big gap there is pretty ridiculous.

It is pretty much consensus that Lebron has top 5 vision in the game today. And today there are some great PG's and passers in the league.

When talking about the elite, we are talking about the top 20 out of the 10,000 plus NBA players in history. A big gap is likely there between number 17 and number 5,321. It is likely not there between number 3 and number 9.
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Old 09-19-2012, 12:03 AM   #4
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Saying there is a big gap there is pretty ridiculous.

It is pretty much consensus that Lebron has top 5 vision in the game today. And today there are some great PG's and passers in the league.

When talking about the elite, we are talking about the top 20 out of the 10,000 plus NBA players in history. A big gap is likely there between number 17 and number 5,321. It is likely not there between number 3 and number 9.
The drop off after Larry Bird is noticeable. Lebron's court vision is elite and his fundamental passing skill is great but it absolutely is not on the same level as Bird. Watching Larry Bird pass makes you go and you have to go back and replay it to see what the hell just happened. Magic Johnson had that effect too, to a slightly even greater degree. Lebron just doesn't have that effect on me. His passes are plain Jane. They are great for putting assists on the stat sheet, but they don't "wow" like Larry Bird.

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Old 09-19-2012, 12:07 AM   #5
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So the highlight video is the proof?
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Default Re: Larry Bird is a better passer than Lebron James:

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Ball passing skill: (note, not the same thing as "point guard abilities")

Steve Nash
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Magic Johnson
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Lebron James.

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So the video is the proof?
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Default Re: Larry Bird is a better passer than Lebron James:

He's mad Lebron left Cleveland.
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Default Re: Larry Bird is a better passer than Lebron James:

Cavs fans are so ****ing desperate it's insane. Get over it. He left.
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Default Re: Larry Bird is a better passer than Lebron James:

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The drop off after Larry Bird is noticeable. Lebron's court vision is elite and his fundamental passing skill is great but it absolutely is not on the same level as Bird. Watching Larry Bird pass makes you go and you have to go back and replay it to see what the hell just happened. Magic Johnson had that effect too, to a slightly even greater degree. Lebron just doesn't have that effect on me. His passes are plain Jane. They are great for putting assists on the stat sheet, but they don't "wow" like Larry Bird.


All I know is that not even Nash has a big gap on Lebron today in terms of passing.

And Paul and Deron certainly do not... i think Lebron may be a little ahead of Deron and right at Paul's level. So, unless Bird had a big gap on Nash, then I don't think he had a big gap on Lebron.
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He's mad Lebron left Cleveland.
Lebron stans and Heat fans always fall back on this when a Cavs fan wants to talk about Lebron - I'ma be the bigger man and say - yes, I was pissed when Lebron left. Over 2 years ago.
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Default Re: Larry Bird is a better passer than Lebron James:

The case for LBJ:

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Cavs fans are so ****ing desperate it's insane. Get over it. He left.
says the 2nd greatest Lebron nutrider in ISH'istory
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Default Re: Larry Bird is a better passer than Lebron James:

Yup. I'm a LeBron nutrider as soon as I call out the fact that you're the biggest baby on the forum when it comes to LBJ leaving your team. Just get over it. IT was 2 years ago!
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Default Re: Larry Bird is a better passer than Lebron James:

"PURE" Passing...Bird is Better

Lebron is a Better "CREATOR" of Offense cause of his Superior Handles and Driving Ability Athletic Ability too...Causing The Defense to Close On Him...Thereby Leaving Other of His Teamates Open.
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