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Old 09-25-2012, 10:30 AM   #31
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how is this a clear interception? both players caught the ball at the same time. just because it looks like jennings has more of the ball doesnt mean its technically an interception. The only reason it looks more like an interception is because jennings jumped higher, landed on top of tate, and had the ball to his chest. but theres no rule saying a player has caught the ball if he has the ball to his chest, jumps higher or how he lands. Both players caught the ball at the same time. tie goes to the offense.
Having an arm on the ball doesn't mean you caught it. Jennings caught it at its highest point. Reeled it to his chest and came down with it lol that wasn't a tie, if it really was close to being a tie it wouldn't be such a big deal. Even Tate couldn't fully admit he caught the ball lol
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Old 09-25-2012, 10:32 AM   #32
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If one guy has the ball first (which Jennings did) and then the other person comes in and grabs the ball, that is not simultaneous possession. That's not the rule. By rule possession is the person who had the ball initially.
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how is this a clear interception? both players caught the ball at the same time.

Uh....not they did not. Packer clearly had it first with possession. Seahawk then put his hands on the ball. That is not simultenous possession. There is really no doubt that is an interception.

Makes no sense, but any ridiculous drama that kicks back in the NFL's face is hilarious to me. So I love this.

Also, can you imagine if the outrage the nation has over this actually transferred to important issues? Never happen.......
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Old 09-25-2012, 10:45 AM   #34
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both players got there hands on the ball at the same time, i would even say from the one view that tate had his right hand on the ball before jennings did.
the outrage is jsut from the perception that its a clear interception when its not.

this shows both players getting catching the ball at the same time

this picture shows jennigns cut out, too show that tate also caught the ball fairly, it only looks like jennings had more of the ball because he jumped higher, and even so after the play on how they landed.

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Old 09-25-2012, 10:47 AM   #35
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both players got there hands on the ball at the same time, i would even say from the one view that tate had his right hand on the ball before jennings did.
the outrage is jsut from the perception that its a clear interception when its not.

this shows both players getting catching the ball at the same time

this picture shows jennigns cut out, too show that tate also caught the ball fairly, it only looks like jennings had more of the ball because he jumped higher, and even so after the play on how they landed.


No, we all saw the game and they showed the replay a thousand times. Jenning has both hands and is pulling in the ball and the reciever sticks his hand in there. What you are saying happened is not what happened.
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Great play by Tate. Go call by the refs.
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Old 09-25-2012, 11:15 AM   #37
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Tate got his hands on the ball as they came to the ground, idk what you guys see
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Old 09-25-2012, 11:26 AM   #38
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this shows both players getting catching the ball at the same time
You may disagree, but I believe there are many times where pictures can tell a completely different story than actual video footage. Surely, Tate has his hands on the ball in the photos up in the air, but it does not mean he ever secured possession and it does not mean the ball left his hands after these photos were taken. Basically, it's pretty easy to find single screenshots to prove a point, but it doesn't stand up in the face of a full video.
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should have been pass interference on the offense in the first place.

and Tate only had 1 hand on the ball the whole time, Jennings had 2

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Old 09-25-2012, 11:38 AM   #40
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Monday night's controversial touchdown call that gave the Seattle Seahawks a 14-12 victory over the Green Bay Packers had an immediate impact for gamblers.

If the Hail Mary pass by Seahawks quarterback Russell Wilson would have been ruled an interception by Packers safety M.D. Jennings, Green Bay -- 3 point favorites -- would have won by five, covering the spread.

Instead, the replacement officials' call that Seahawks wide receiver Golden Tate had possession shifted all those who bet on the Packers to those who took the underdog Seahawks.

"Most of the customers in the sportsbook were not happy with the final call," said John Avello, director of the race and sportsbook at the Wynn in Las Vegas. "The shift was 100 percent. After the (Seahawks) score, all bets were reversed."

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Avello's best guess as to how much money was shifted worldwide on the call? $150 million in total bets worldwide.

Jeff Sherman, assistant director of the race and sportsbook at the Las Vegas Hotel, says he estimates that the game shifted $15 million in Nevada alone and also concurs with Avello that the worldwide number, including offshore sportsbooks and in Europe, is worth about 10 times more.

Those who take bets online estimated the shift in money was even greater.

Mike Perry, spokesman for betting site Sportsbook.ag, told ESPN.com his estimate in the money swing on the call at the end of the game is closer to between $200 million and $250 million.

Perry said that 70 to 80 percent of the money on his site was put on the Packers, which is in line with the percentage bet in Vegas. At Mandalay Bay, the sportsbook took in about $500,000 in total bets, with about 85 percent of the money on the Packers.

Oddsmaker Danny Sheridan, who sets the lines for USA Today, had the highest estimate of those surveyed by ESPN.com. Sheridan said Tuesday morning that he believes that $1 billion in total money changed hands with the touchdown call.

While there has been no way to handicap the exact part that replacement officials play in spreads, Avello says that it's not the first time this year that spreads have been altered by bad calls.

"It's the first call that has directly affected the outcome, but there have been many that have affected the outcome or the spread directly," he said.

The call didn't just have an immediate impact on gamblers, it also impacted the Packers' Super Bowl odds. After Monday night's game, the Las Vegas Hotel has changed the odds for the Packers to win the Super Bowl from 7-1 Monday to 9-1 Tuesday.
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Old 09-25-2012, 11:48 AM   #42
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should have been pass interference on the offense in the first place.

and Tate only had 1 hand on the ball the whole time, Jennings had 2



first off, they never call pass interference in a situation like that... never.


secondly... in the gif it looks like tate got is hand under the ball while jennings was pulling it in. there were up in the air at this point.

it also shows tate digging his other hand in there as well.


not enough evidence to overturn.
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Old 09-25-2012, 12:07 PM   #43
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should have been pass interference on the offense in the first place.

and Tate only had 1 hand on the ball the whole time, Jennings had 2


well i guess im wrong. i only watch the video with that one angle. i also thought it coudl have been pass interference but when its up for grabs like that they dont really call it.
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Old 09-25-2012, 02:18 PM   #44
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Old 09-25-2012, 02:47 PM   #45
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The overreaction to this play is hilarious. Chris Carter was tearing up on Mike and Mike this morning.




What's funny is, if you ask me, the refs got the call right by rule.
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