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Old 09-26-2012, 06:10 PM   #16
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Default Re: Eli manning is the best QB in football.

Eli is right outside the top 5 to me. The best QB is between Rodgers and Brady. I think so far this season Brady has been better but Rodgers was easily better last season. Rodgers has cooled off in the last 5-6 NFL games he has played in.
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Old 09-26-2012, 06:55 PM   #17
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Default Re: Eli manning is the best QB in football.

Rodgers has faced SF, CHI and SEA this year

that is the reason for his slow start



this week he plays NO and will get over 400 yards easy
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Old 09-26-2012, 07:29 PM   #18
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Default Re: Eli manning is the best QB in football.

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Right NOW, he's the top Qb in the league, absolutely no doubt about it.

No he's not. You emphasized right now, in which case Matt Ryan is the best quarterback right now.
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Old 09-26-2012, 09:37 PM   #19
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No he's not. You emphasized right now, in which case Matt Ryan is the best quarterback right now.

I think Eli has like 200 more passing yards 2 or 3 less passing TDs and 2 more intos than Matt Ryan at this point with banged up weapons. Make of that what you will. Both are off to great starts. Hopefully they both keep it going.
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Old 09-26-2012, 10:13 PM   #20
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Default Re: Eli manning is the best QB in football.

Make of it what you will - Ok, I have done that, and it's clear if we're going by RIGHT NOW that Matt is playing better. No question about it.

Turnovers are a big deal. So are touchdowns, both of which Ryan leads by a big margin. QB rating, QBR, whatever one you prefer, he leads by a huge margin.
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Old 09-26-2012, 10:16 PM   #21
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Default Re: Eli manning is the best QB in football.

.....but "right now" is totally the wrong way to go about it, because I'd rather have Eli over Matt Ryan....but because the stipulation was "right now," you can't argue against Matt Ryan.
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Your posts make me want to throw up.
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Old 09-26-2012, 10:35 PM   #23
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Default Re: Eli manning is the best QB in football.

I think Eli would put up Brees Rodgers Brady if he was in those insane offenses also.

Say what you want about stats, consistency, etc. whatever. Even though those haven't been problems for eli for a while now. Hands down there is no other QB I would want in a big moment or game. To me that means your the best QB.
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Default Re: Eli manning is the best QB in football.

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Eli Manning has LED the NFL in interceptions twice, thrown away more games than any QB in the league...yet the ring has the fans thinking he is the most clutch QB in the league...smh

THE GIANTS WON A SB...not Eli
Lmao Eli carried the giants last year. We couldn't run, defend the pass or stop the run. Even the special teams was a problems. Those parts of the team didn't step up till the last 6 games.. That's when the team cam full circle and embarrassed the NFC and whooped NE again. CHAMPS.. 2 Super Bowl Mvps...
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Old 09-26-2012, 10:40 PM   #25
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Okay well I won't compare him to Romo in this thread but I now think we can make the thread "Eli Manning and the Dreaded OVERrated Word"

he is a great QB and was in fact underrated when Marlo made that thread but best in the NFL?...lol

he is NOT on that top tier, never will be unless Rodgers Brees and Brady all die

it is just amazing what a ring does for a QB's perception...it is EVERYTHING in the eyes of fans, but it shouldn't be
15 4th quarter TD's... Lemme see Bree's Rodgers or Brady do that.

Brady was better a couple years ago.. Eli has beat him 3 times in a row

Bree's throws a shit load of interceptions too, so if your gonna use that against Eli then you gotta use it against Bree's also.

Rodgers and Eli is a toss up to me.
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Rodgers and Eli is a toss up?

Based on what?
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Old 09-26-2012, 11:21 PM   #27
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He's still number 4 on my list.
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Old 09-26-2012, 11:23 PM   #28
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Default Re: Eli manning is the best QB in football.

Saying Matt Ryan is the best "right now" is like saying the best baseball player is the one with the best April numbers.
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Old 09-26-2012, 11:41 PM   #29
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I think Eli has like 200 more passing yards 2 or 3 less passing TDs and 2 more intos than Matt Ryan at this point with banged up weapons. Make of that what you will. Both are off to great starts. Hopefully they both keep it going.

That's because he threw for 500 yards against the Bucs while throwing 3 picks in the 2nd quarter which got them into a hole.
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Old 09-27-2012, 12:00 AM   #30
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Yeah in like 2009 lol

And 2010, 11 and 12. He led the league in interceptions in 2010 with about a 100, but you think he was awesome and consistent? Last year, he got bailed out by his receivers on a number of plays, but we're not allowed to give credit to anyone but the QB, right? I know the Redskins didn't have trouble beating them last year while Eli was craptacular in those games.

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Lmao Eli carried the giants last year.

He had 2 pro bowl caliber WRs, a nice #3 WR, 2 DEs that combined for about 25 sacks, and your defense was near the top in getting turnovers. Nobody will doubt that he's really good, but he's just not at the top. It's not like it's a slight on him. I have to agree with pt, he's becoming overrated.
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