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Old 09-27-2012, 12:23 AM   #31
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Default Re: Eli manning is the best QB in football.

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He had 2 pro bowl caliber WRs, a nice #3 WR, 2 DEs that combined for about 25 sacks, and your defense was near the top in getting turnovers. Nobody will doubt that he's really good, but he's just not at the top. It's not like it's a slight on him. I have to agree with pt, he's becoming overrated.


This is the shittiest argument to use against a QB ever. Should we take Joe Montana down a notch because he played with Jerry Rice, John Taylor, Roger Craig, and Ronnie Lott?
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Old 09-27-2012, 12:25 AM   #32
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Default Re: Eli manning is the best QB in football.

As much as I hate the Packers and everything apart of them, I still give Rodgers his props as a top QB.


You NFCE guys just sent giving Eli his. He's right there with the top guys. Has the resume, stats, wins, everything you want to find in a top QB. The clear cut top 5 is Brady, Brees, Rodgers, and both Mannings.
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Old 09-27-2012, 06:12 AM   #33
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Default Re: Eli manning is the best QB in football.

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No he's not. You emphasized right now, in which case Matt Ryan is the best quarterback right now.

Eli had a monster game against Dallas last year in the last game of the regular season to seal a playoff berth. Then the he just played on another level against the BEST TEAMS to get to the Superbowl, which he apparently won.
Then half a year later he's still ripping through defenses and is about to make another TE have a 'big' payday in the future with Bennett. This is a large enough sample size to say: "Yes, he's the best QB in the league right NOW".
The way he bounced back from the deficit and those INTs against Tampa was just plain jaw dropping.

You don't say that from a QB who had 3 great games to start a regular season against a KC defense who missed 2 or 3 of their best defensive backs and, apparently to the media, a 'noodle-armed' Peyton (and your own defense) who just giftwrap you 3 great field positions with those 3 INTs in the first quarter.
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Old 09-27-2012, 08:20 AM   #34
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And 2010, 11 and 12. He led the league in interceptions in 2010 with about a 100, but you think he was awesome and consistent? Last year, he got bailed out by his receivers on a number of plays, but we're not allowed to give credit to anyone but the QB, right? I know the Redskins didn't have trouble beating them last year while Eli was craptacular in those games.



He had 2 pro bowl caliber WRs, a nice #3 WR, 2 DEs that combined for about 25 sacks, and your defense was near the top in getting turnovers. Nobody will doubt that he's really good, but he's just not at the top. It's not like it's a slight on him. I have to agree with pt, he's becoming overrated.
What are you talking about. We had one of the worst defenses in the league last year. The giants were winning shoot outs. And I won't knock Nicks or Cruz but receivers are nothing without their QB playing well. Eli overcame a crappy Run game, Crappy o line, and crappy defense for most of the season. We couldn't even stop Vince young. Lol
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Old 09-27-2012, 08:23 AM   #35
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Lmao @ Matt Ryan. He couldn't even score a point for his team In the playoffs last season. He's not ready yet.
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Old 09-27-2012, 08:26 AM   #36
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Default Re: Eli manning is the best QB in football.

Eli/Rodgers
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Peyton
Big Ben
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Default Re: Eli manning is the best QB in football.

Eli isn't the best QB in the NFL(this is coming from someone who's thought Elite was elite for the past 2-3 seasns) but he is elite and I'd say he's the clutchest QB in the league.. No other guy I'd rather have in the 4th quarter than Eli.
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Old 09-27-2012, 09:34 AM   #38
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Eli had a monster game against Dallas last year in the last game of the regular season to seal a playoff berth. Then the he just played on another level against the BEST TEAMS to get to the Superbowl, which he apparently won.
Then half a year later he's still ripping through defenses and is about to make another TE have a 'big' payday in the future with Bennett. This is a large enough sample size to say: "Yes, he's the best QB in the league right NOW".
The way he bounced back from the deficit and those INTs against Tampa was just plain jaw dropping.

You don't say that from a QB who had 3 great games to start a regular season against a KC defense who missed 2 or 3 of their best defensive backs and, apparently to the media, a 'noodle-armed' Peyton (and your own defense) who just giftwrap you 3 great field positions with those 3 INTs in the first quarter.

If you're going to include sample size, than he REALLY has no argument vs. Rodgers. Rodgers exploded onto the scene in 2009 having a better season than any in Eli Mannning's career.... then followed that up with a superbowl season where he again played amazing, then followed that up with one of the top 5 seasons ever for a quarterback.

Eli doesn't even come close to Rodgers if you want to include a sample size big enough to make a real logical decision.
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Old 09-27-2012, 09:37 AM   #39
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Eli isn't the best QB in the NFL(this is coming from someone who's thought Elite was elite for the past 2-3 seasns) but he is elite and I'd say he's the clutchest QB in the league.. No other guy I'd rather have in the 4th quarter than Eli.

THIS. You can't call him the best because he's not as consistent as some other guys. But being in the conversation but nto being best is not a terrible thing.
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Old 09-27-2012, 11:43 AM   #40
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Default Re: Eli manning is the best QB in football.

As a Giants fan I think anyone that labels Eli Manning a top 3 QB, let alone #1, either doesn't watch Giants games or doesn't understand what they are watching on the football field.

Eli is the epitome of inconsistency. He doesn't always make the right reads, he doesn't always get his feet in position to be accurate, nor does he consistently deliver the ball on time.
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As a Giants fan I think anyone that labels Eli Manning a top 3 QB, let alone #1, either doesn't watch Giants games or doesn't understand what they are watching on the football field.

Eli is the epitome of inconsistency. He doesn't always make the right reads, he doesn't always get his feet in position to be accurate, nor does he consistently deliver the ball on time.
wow someone that knows wtf they are talking about...

but he won a ring so that means = CLUTCHEST QB EVVVVAAR!!!!



THE NY GIANTS WON A RING

you know

Jason Pierre-Paul
Hakeem Nicks
Victor Cruz
Osi
Tuck
Canty
Webster
Thomas
Snee
etc
etc
etc


^^^ THOSE GUYS WON A RING TOGETHER
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wow someone that knows wtf they are talking about...

but he won a ring so that means = CLUTCHEST QB EVVVVAAR!!!!



THE NY GIANTS WON A RING

you know

Jason Pierre-Paul
Hakeem Nicks
Victor Cruz
Osi
Tuck
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Thomas
Snee
etc
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^^^ THOSE GUYS WON A RING TOGETHER

Yea, everyone listen to the attentionseeking whore who says Austin/Bryant is a better duo than Cruz/Nicks.
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Default Re: Eli manning is the best QB in football.

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wow someone that knows wtf they are talking about...

but he won a ring so that means = CLUTCHEST QB EVVVVAAR!!!!



THE NY GIANTS WON A RING

you know

Jason Pierre-Paul
Hakeem Nicks
Victor Cruz
Osi
Tuck
Canty
Webster
Thomas
Snee
etc
etc
etc


^^^ THOSE GUYS WON A RING TOGETHER

Yeah QB's don't have anything to do with it huh? Lmao

Look at all the recent Super Bowl winners

Manning
Rodgers
Big Ben
Brees
Eli
Peyton
Brady 3 times.

The reason the cowboys or eagles haven't won is cause of Romo, vick and mcnabb brah. Those teams are stacked.
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yes Eli was PART of it....so was Dilpher with the Ravens

THE GIANTS won a ring, not Eli

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BS, STACKED!!!??? Romo was argueablly the best player on the team last year lol...maybe Ware first, then Romo

we lost because our others players sucked...our defense...
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you clearly don't know shit about football...to you it is the NY Eli's vs. the Dallas Romos


you probably can't even name more than 2 people on the NY defense, which was the real heart of that team last year...
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