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Old 10-01-2012, 12:55 PM   #16
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Old 10-01-2012, 01:11 PM   #17
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no you are confused

mathematically speaking they are exactly the same...just one is played at an earlier point in time than another


The last game of the year was a virtual play-in game for the playoffs. There is no way you could know the stakes in a September game. There was more importance on that game for obvious reasons.
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Old 10-01-2012, 01:14 PM   #18
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The last game of the year was a virtual play-in game for the playoffs. There is no way you could know the stakes in a September game. There was more importance on that game for obvious reasons.

Never mind, he said something stupid but he'd never change his mind simply because he doesn't want to admit on a message board he made a mistake, he'd rather say the same thing wrong over and over.

Anyone who plays sports knows their are moments that are more important. There is a reason clutch players get more money and more accolades. If every moment was the same A-Rod would never have received 1 word of criticism in his whole career. And Texas Rangers would have a parade.
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Old 10-01-2012, 01:27 PM   #20
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pt does have a point though. There's a reason the stats are hugely lopsided for teams not making the playoffs if they start 0-2.
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Never mind, he said something stupid but he'd never change his mind simply because he doesn't want to admit on a message board he made a mistake, he'd rather say the same thing wrong over and over.

Anyone who plays sports knows their are moments that are more important. There is a reason clutch players get more money and more accolades. If every moment was the same A-Rod would never have received 1 word of criticism in his whole career. And Texas Rangers would have a parade.


I'm NOT wrong you retard

mathematically speaking every game is just as important as the next, divisional games having more mathematical importance than non divisional, I can say that 1,000,000,000 times and it would be correct every single time.

last night's game could EASILY be the reason that the Giants miss the post season


you're right though Sarcastic in that they aren't aware of it yet...there is that difference, that is the only difference though, in the player's head, and in the fan's head...in reality there is no difference, we could place last night's game at week 17 and it would mean the exact same as it did last night.

IMO they should be playing every game as though the season is on the line, because with only 16 games they all have huge importance obviously
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pt does have a point though. There's a reason the stats are hugely lopsided for teams not making the playoffs if they start 0-2.
who in the nfc east has started out 0-2 this year? saints and giants both lost their 4th games in horrible fashion, but they are hardly in similar situations. saints might have dug themselves too deep, giants are still not out of it. unless they lose their next 4 games, they can still get hot at the end and sneak in at 9-7. i would take the giants at 9-7 over the falcons at 14-2 or 13-3.
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yeah see Giant's fans are so used to luckily sneaking in as a Wildcard because SOMEONE ELSE LOST that they are of the mind set that early games don't matter...

maybe they won't get so lucky this time...
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Old 10-01-2012, 01:35 PM   #24
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I'm NOT wrong you retard

mathematically speaking every game is just as important as the next, divisional games having more mathematical importance than non divisional, I can say that 1,000,000,000 times and it would be correct every single time.

last night's game could EASILY be the reason that the Giants miss the post season


you're right though Sarcastic in that they aren't aware of it yet...there is that difference, that is the only difference though, in the player's head, and in the fan's head...in reality there is no difference, we could place last night's game at week 17 and it would mean the exact same as it did last night.

IMO they should be playing every game as though the season is on the line, because with only 16 games they all have huge importance obviously

You can try to catch up later on though when you know if you need to. I know a win is a win but not every win winds up carrying the same weight. The Cowboys win in week 1 was more important than them winning game 2. It had tiebreaker possibilities, etc. You don't know the stakes now.

Thanks for the math lesson but it's easy to see late season games are more important.
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who in the nfc east has started out 0-2 this year? saints and giants both lost their 4th games in horrible fashion, but they are hardly in similar situations. saints might have dug themselves too deep, giants are still not out of it. unless they lose their next 4 games, they can still get hot at the end and sneak in at 9-7. i would take the giants at 9-7 over the falcons at 14-2 or 13-3.
No one said anyone in the NFC East has started 0-2. They're discussing the importance of a game at the start of a season as opposed to the end of the season. They all weigh the same, especially with as short of a season the NFL has. That's why teams that start of slow have that much less of a chance of making it. 0-2 was my example as only something like 12% of teams that start that way have made the postseason.
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yeah see Giant's fans are so used to luckily sneaking in as a Wildcard because SOMEONE ELSE LOST that they are of the mind set that early games don't matter...

maybe they won't get so lucky this time...
We beat you last year, we didn't get any help on losses. Speaking out of your ass again. We had our fate in our own hands with 4 games left and we never lost that. As did you. But you lost it.



Did you even watch the Cowboys back when they were winning titles? You talk like someone who's never seen his team win.
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pt does have a point though. There's a reason the stats are hugely lopsided for teams not making the playoffs if they start 0-2.


Teams that start 0-2 usually suck though. Good teams that get off to bad starts can still recover.

It's like saying a baseball team can miss the playoffs in April. A bad start can certainly be the cause of missing the playoffs, but it is almost never the sole reason.
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Teams that start 0-2 usually suck though. Good teams that get off to bad starts can still recover.

It's like saying a baseball team can miss the playoffs in April. A bad start can certainly be the cause of missing the playoffs, but it is almost never the sole reason.
can't compare it to baseball where there's 162 games for a team to make the playoffs.
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All games have equal value in the standings, but they are not all played with the same importance.
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Teams that start 0-2 usually suck though. Good teams that get off to bad starts can still recover.

It's like saying a baseball team can miss the playoffs in April. A bad start can certainly be the cause of missing the playoffs, but it is almost never the sole reason.
It's the same thing for people who want to say A-Rod first inning homers in a 5-4 game are as important as the Jeter home run that makes the game 5-4. They are but they are not. And the think that makes the Jeter one more special is it's harder to get that fifth run. Winning game 4 is easier than winning game 16. These are not robots and it's not a video game. Teams play harder when they know exactly the takes (or weaker if they know they are out). It's just how it is.
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