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Old 10-04-2012, 04:12 PM   #16
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Default Re: Barkley: ""I do think he can be better than Michael," Barkley said."

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You're a ****ing idiot if you don't think LeBron can pass Jordan.

Also, I love Open Court. Gonna DVR this whole season. good lookin out OP.
I think ur the idiot for thinking he has a shot
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Old 10-04-2012, 04:16 PM   #17
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Default Re: Barkley: ""I do think he can be better than Michael," Barkley said."

Lebron already has more failures and lows than Jordan had in his entire carer, especially in the playoffs. And at that level, it matters.
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Old 10-04-2012, 04:16 PM   #18
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Default Re: Barkley: ""I do think he can be better than Michael," Barkley said."

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Huh? I think there's no chance Kobe and Duncan can become GOAT unless they all of a sudden become greater players then they ever were and keep it up for a few years.

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I think you can realistically cross Kobe and Duncan off that list. Unless they can improve upon their prime selfs - which I find unlikely - and somehow maintain that for 3-4 years, or continue their current level for another 10, I don't see it happening.

I'm just trying to name everybody who has even a remote shot at being considered GOAT (except for guys who haven't been in the league long enough). The likelihoods are very small for some, but there's still a remote possibility that needs to be addressed.
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Old 10-04-2012, 05:29 PM   #19
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Default Re: Barkley: ""I do think he can be better than Michael," Barkley said."

He is capable of passing Mike, talent-wise. Yet he won't.
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Old 10-04-2012, 06:17 PM   #20
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Default Re: Barkley: ""I do think he can be better than Michael," Barkley said."

Charles Barkley just says whatever pops into his head at the time, he never thinks things through. It might make him entertaining to some, but it makes him lousy as a credible analyst.

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He’ll never be Jordan. This clearly takes him out of the conversation. He can win as much as he wants to.
http://sportsradiointerviews.com/201...hip-at-age-25/

There's no consistency and no thought going into what he says.
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Old 10-04-2012, 06:36 PM   #21
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Default Re: Barkley: ""I do think he can be better than Michael," Barkley said."

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Charles Barkley just says whatever pops into his head at the time, he never thinks things through. It might make him entertaining to some, but it makes him lousy as a credible analyst.


http://sportsradiointerviews.com/201...hip-at-age-25/

There's no consistency and no thought going into what he says.

That was his immediate and emotional response to the decision and how it made him feel about Lebron's competitiveness or whatever, more so than his judgement of Lebron as player.

As far as his judgement of Lebron as a player, he's always though of him as an amazing player (though he has of course criticized Lebron when he deserved it...like in the 2011 Finals).
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Old 10-04-2012, 06:37 PM   #22
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Default Re: Barkley: ""I do think he can be better than Michael," Barkley said."

Jordan isn't god. I'm pretty sure another player WILL pass him up at some point.
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Old 10-04-2012, 06:39 PM   #23
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Default Re: Barkley: ""I do think he can be better than Michael," Barkley said."

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He can pass Jordan, but I'm sure he isn't passing KOBE!

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Old 10-04-2012, 06:57 PM   #24
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Default Re: Barkley: ""I do think he can be better than Michael," Barkley said."

If Lebron can win 4 or 5 rings while being this dominant he absolutely has a case as the GOAT so not sure why people bitch about stuff like this. Sure Jordan was a killer and Lebron was mentally weak but bottom line is production, success and impact and Lebron is already there with Jordan in two of them. Once he has more career and individual success.. another decade as an elite player could push him to that top spot.
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Old 10-04-2012, 07:00 PM   #25
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If Lebron can win 4 or 5 rings while being this dominant he absolutely has a case as the GOAT so not sure why people bitch about stuff like this. Sure Jordan was a killer and Lebron was mentally weak but bottom line is production, success and impact and Lebron is already there with Jordan in two of them. Once he has more career and individual success.. another decade as an elite player could push him to that top spot.

It's because a lot of people here hate Lebron.

Also, like in politics, and everything else in life, people here have aligned themselves with a particular other player (Jordan, Kobe, Wilt, etc.) who they feel is the GOAT. As such, for whatever reason, even though these players will never give a shit about them, they take any slight PERSONALLY.
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Old 10-04-2012, 07:04 PM   #26
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Default Re: Barkley: ""I do think he can be better than Michael," Barkley said."

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Lebron already has more failures and lows than Jordan had in his entire carer, especially in the playoffs. And at that level, it matters.

True, you pretty much have to have the perfect career to pass Jordan. So, hypothetically speaking if Lebron does win X amount of MVPs/titles and he's compared to Jordan, ppl will still bring up his '11 Finals performance/ his '10 Celtics performances etc.
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Old 10-04-2012, 07:06 PM   #27
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Default Re: Barkley: ""I do think he can be better than Michael," Barkley said."

LeBron's probably the best player since MJ, but he's not better.
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Old 10-04-2012, 07:08 PM   #28
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True, you pretty much have to have the perfect career to pass Jordan. So, hypothetically speaking if Lebron does win X amount of MVPs/titles and he's compared to Jordan, ppl will still bring up his '11 Finals performance/ his '10 Celtics performances etc.

Thing is, Jordan didn't have a perfect career. He failed multiple times before he started winning. Probably the two players who have had anything close to "perfect" careers are Bill Russell and Magic.
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Old 10-04-2012, 07:11 PM   #29
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Default Re: Barkley: ""I do think he can be better than Michael," Barkley said."

I'm trying to figure out how Lebron has already supplanted Kobe Bryant because of 1 championship. I mean, people have pretty much thrown out Kobe in an all-time great discussion because of the fact that Lebron is "bigger, stronger, and faster" as if that should be a deciding factor in a Lebron vs. Jordan discussion.
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Thing is, Jordan didn't have a perfect career. He failed multiple times before he started winning. Probably the two players who have had anything close to "perfect" careers are Bill Russell and Magic.
The Bulls losing to superior teams doesn't mean MJ failed individually.
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