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Old 10-06-2012, 02:54 PM   #31
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Wow, look at that house!
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Old 10-06-2012, 02:59 PM   #32
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kid is a whack job. must have had some mental problem that they knew about but was undiagnosed.



Watch, you'll hear those details later. That the family knew he had some "issues" but took it lightly or something, or were getting him help, or whatever.


It's always something like this where the people were ignoring the red flags. I find it very hard to believe that he was fine and dandy and just one day flips out and shoots members of his family to death.
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Old 10-06-2012, 03:00 PM   #33
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This little piece of shit. He only seems to be concerned about his own well-being. This is going to "mess me up."

It's strange how the most heinous crimes in the world, such as matricide, are mostly committed by Caucasian teen males.

Oh, well. I guess I'll be one of the few people who take that into notice while everyone else ignores it, but when a Middle Eastern person kills someone, a black dude shoots someone, a Hispanic stabs someone, etc., the rest of you can simply say, "What's new? They do that all the time."

Leave it up to scholar to bring up race in every thread.

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Old 10-06-2012, 03:02 PM   #34
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Watch, you'll hear those details later. That the family knew he had some "issues" but took it lightly or something, or were getting him help, or whatever.


It's always something like this where the people were ignoring the red flags. I find it very hard to believe that he was fine and dandy and just one day flips out and shoots members of his family to death.
Yeah maybe. Nothing's really been said about why he was pulled out of his hs to be homeschooled.
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Old 10-06-2012, 03:05 PM   #35
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Just found out he and his sister were home schooled.... and that's the problem IMO probably no exposes to other people and society... btw i'm not saying everyone that is home schooled is going on a massacre
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Old 10-06-2012, 03:06 PM   #36
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Leave it up to scholar to bring up race in every thread.

Yes, "Scholar".
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Old 10-06-2012, 03:07 PM   #37
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Just found out he and his sister were home schooled.... and that's the problem IMO probably no exposes to other people and society... btw i'm not saying everyone that is home schooled is going on a massacre


Could be (for this particular case) why he felt "suffocated"


I mean look at that house....doesnt look like much is around there.
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Old 10-06-2012, 03:15 PM   #38
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It's always something like this where the people were ignoring the red flags. I find it very hard to believe that he was fine and dandy and just one day flips out and shoots members of his family to death.

The problem is that the insanity is ongoing in the mind but the person keeps it all in. The delusions, obsessions, distorted thinking, wild fantasies are all hidden and grow in secret (these are some of the most closed off and silent people) until all the years of internal psychosis manifests itself in horrible physical actions that seem to erupt from no where. Most of the ongoing internal struggle is never understood because the deluded person never fully open up about it. They have this false sense of oppression and others judging them that they keep it all in until fantasies turn to reality and some f*cked up shit ends up happening.
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Old 10-06-2012, 03:20 PM   #39
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The problem is that the insanity is ongoing in the mind but the person keeps it all in. The delusions, obsessions, distorted thinking, wild fantasies are all hidden and grow in secret (these are some of the most closed off and silent people) until all the years of internal psychosis manifests itself in horrible physical actions that seem to erupt from no where. Most of the ongoing internal struggle is never understood because the deluded person never fully open up about it. They have this false sense of oppression and others judging them that they keep it all in until fantasies turn to reality and some f*cked up shit ends up happening.



I guess we could say that it is true. Look at Dahlmer. He "seemed normal" from what people would talk about.
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Old 10-06-2012, 03:27 PM   #40
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Since it's capital murder, he'll be getting the death penalty with no possibility of parole. Plus there's no way he can plead insanity after confirming with the 911 dispatcher how he'd been planning on killing people. Why not just put the gun in your mouth and pull the trigger. These cowards always have to take innocent lives
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Old 10-06-2012, 03:28 PM   #41
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Since it's capital murder, he'll be getting the death penalty with no possibility of parole. Plus there's no way he can plead insanity after confirming with the 911 dispatcher how he'd been planning on killing people. Why not just put the gun in your mouth and pull the trigger. These cowards always have to take innocent lives


Do you think he could take a lesser charge in a plea?

edit: im tripping.
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Old 10-06-2012, 03:41 PM   #42
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Common guys he's only 17. It's not like he's in a gang or something, he should get some counselling and maybe 15 years suspended sentence.
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Old 10-06-2012, 03:41 PM   #43
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isn't he still a minor technically? can they give the death penalty to minors?

maybe he planned all this before his 18th birthday with that in mind
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Old 10-06-2012, 03:45 PM   #44
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isn't he still a minor technically? can they give the death penalty to minors?

maybe he planned all this before his 18th birthday with that in mind

Minors can still be charged as an adults.
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Old 10-06-2012, 03:47 PM   #45
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Since it's capital murder, he'll be getting the death penalty with no possibility of parole. Plus there's no way he can plead insanity after confirming with the 911 dispatcher how he'd been planning on killing people. Why not just put the gun in your mouth and pull the trigger. These cowards always have to take innocent lives
It can still be insanity. Just not a crime of Temporary Insanity or a Crime of Passion. Its clearly premeditated murder. But a lot of insane acts are premeditated.

If they were to act considerately then they would be rational and sane. There is no sane logic in killing other people because they are a nuisance. He wouldn't kill himself because its all about him, he's incapable of giving importance to anything but himself. The worst type of insane people. They will justify anything if it suits their purpose.
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