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Old 01-11-2013, 04:49 AM   #16
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Default Re: Scottie Pippen: Ultimate Defender

Pippen and Tim Duncan are the best defenders to never win DPOY and I would definitely take them over most DPOY winners.
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Old 01-11-2013, 12:44 PM   #17
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I would say Kobe is the ultimate defender. he is able to stop his 4 teammates from scoring.



I would say you're a loser. But you'll keep at it.
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Old 01-11-2013, 12:45 PM   #18
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Pippen and Tim Duncan are the best defenders to never win DPOY and I would definitely take them over most DPOY winners.



I don't know but the only year Duncan has a great argument to win was 07...and it's not because he had a great argument but because no one stood out and people talk shit on Camby, without much basis.
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Old 01-11-2013, 02:25 PM   #19
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Pippen not winning a DPOY was a travesty. Especially in 95. What he did that year was more impressive than Kobe 06 season and Wades 09 season. Or Mcgradys 03 season. He was everything for that team.
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Old 01-11-2013, 02:28 PM   #20
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Pippen not winning a DPOY was a travesty. Especially in 95. What he did that year was more impressive than Kobe 06 season and Wades 09 season. Or Mcgradys 03 season. He was everything for that team.

Are you f*cking high?
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Old 01-11-2013, 02:47 PM   #21
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Are you f*cking high?
What makes their season more impressive?
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Old 01-11-2013, 02:49 PM   #22
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Pippen not winning a DPOY was a travesty. Especially in 95. What he did that year was more impressive than Kobe 06 season and Wades 09 season. Or Mcgradys 03 season. He was everything for that team.

Which seasons do you think he should've won DPOY? I think he should have at least one award (and is arguably the only non-big who should have won, since he anchored those elite Bulls defenses).
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Old 01-11-2013, 02:52 PM   #23
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Are you f*cking high?

pip took them to the ecf. wade, kobe and t-mac had great stats on bad teams.
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Old 01-11-2013, 02:54 PM   #24
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Which seasons do you think he should've won DPOY? I think he should have at least one award (and is arguably the only non-big who should have won, since he anchored those elite Bulls defenses).

95 and/or 96
imho payton was never a better defender than pip.
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Old 01-11-2013, 02:58 PM   #25
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Are you f*cking high?

Kobe and Wade were (and ARE) infinitely better scorers, but Pip was THE best perimeter defender in '94 and a superior playmaker / rebounder. Took his team deeper into the postseason vs. BETTER competition too.
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Old 01-11-2013, 03:32 PM   #26
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Kinda tough being DPOY when you're the 2nd best defender on your team.

Yeah I went there.
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Which seasons do you think he should've won DPOY? I think he should have at least one award (and is arguably the only non-big who should have won, since he anchored those elite Bulls defenses).
Absolutely 95. His team had a better record than Mutombos, He lead the league in defensive rating, steals, avg a block a game, was his teams best man, help, trap, full court, and even low post defender.
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Kinda tough being DPOY when you're the 2nd best defender on your team.

Yeah I went there.
When Jordan won in 88, Pippen wasnt in his prime, so it was legit. lol
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Old 01-11-2013, 03:36 PM   #29
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Probably should've been DPOY in '94, but it's difficult taking it away from Hakeem, too. If Hakeem got MVP, I would've gave Pip the DPOY.
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When Jordan won in 88, Pippen wasnt in his prime, so it was legit. lol

MJ is better than Pip, always has always will be.

Not significantly better, but still better nonetheless.

And this is while MJ had the bulk of the pressure on him, while being double teamed. Teams prepared for MJ on their offensive side of the end as a defensive ploy all the time. All Pip had to do is give the ball to MJ on offense and then focus on mainly helping out.

He wasn't the lock down defender ya'll make him out to be. He got killed too many times, specially by stronger players in the post, or quicker players in the perimeter. MJ was better on the perimeter and post, because Mj was quicker on the perimeter and MJ was more strong willed in the post.

To be fair, MJ got away with more calls, but even without those calls MJ was still better all around defender. Slight edge may go to Pip on the 'help' side due to his length (he could cover 2 spots at the same time, almost unheard of). But MJ was smarter, better athlete, timing, reflexes.
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