#60 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops

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Minus a vote for Gasol when this is finished, WockaVodka and MiamiThrice are the same person. RG is clueless as hell, thinking we don't know it's him.

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T-Mac

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Hal "Great Player and worthy of top 60" Greer

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Jerry Lucas

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Originally Posted by MiamiThrice

Pau Gasol


-2x NBA Champion (2009, 2010)
-Led 2010 Lakers to the championship as the best player
-4 x NBA Allstar
-18.7 PPG, 9.2 RPG 3.2 APG career numbers
-3 All NBA teams
-Two silver medals as the best player
-One of the most skilled bigmen of all-time
-Made the cover of the NBA video game in Spain

Originally Posted by WockaVodka

Pau Gasol

Be less obvious RG.

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reggie miller

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Originally Posted by G.O.A.T

Miller's teams won more when he was in the same role as those guys and those guys usually had better second and third options, though usually not as good of depth. Those guys and others like Marques Johnson, Bernard King, Webber, McGrady etc. were better individual players at their peak than Miller. But they weren't better team players, or at least never proved it like Miller did and some of them had the opportunity Miller never did, to play alongside an elite player and still don't win anymore.

Miller's style of play allowed for all of his teammates to be maximized without him having to be used any less. Additionally his consistent ability to score more in the playoffs and occasionally, especially when needed, have an elite superstar game elevated Indiana to a comparable level (from 94-00) with teams like New York, Miami, San Antonio, Utah, Orlando, Houston, Seattle and Phoenix which all had relatively comparable 2-8 rotations and all had more highly regarded superstars.

If that's the criteria, then why not Manu Ginobili? We know he's damn good, filled the above criteria and more versatile. Oh and he actually won 3 championships in much shorter window. Is it because Manu played with Tim Duncan?

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Originally Posted by iamgine

If that's the criteria, then why not Manu Ginobili? We know he's damn good, filled the above criteria and more versatile. Oh and he actually won 3 championships in much shorter window. Is it because Manu played with Tim Duncan?

Manu has even less accolades then all of them.

Plus he was never the go-to guy. Even as the 2nd or 3rd option, it doesn't match up.

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Originally Posted by iamgine

If that's the criteria, then why not Manu Ginobili? We know he's damn good, filled the above criteria and more versatile. Oh and he actually won 3 championships in much shorter window. Is it because Manu played with Tim Duncan?

Ginobili in no way fits the description of Miller I gave. The whole point was that Miller made the Pacers a constant contender without a superstar teammate. Ginobili had arguably the best player of the NBA on his team.