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Old 10-16-2012, 09:50 AM   #1
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Default Eagles fire Juan Castillo

As per nfl.com

Wow, I'm really surprised. Andy Reid is probably gonna be next along with Mike.
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Old 10-16-2012, 09:53 AM   #2
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Old 10-16-2012, 10:21 AM   #3
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Tough news, hope the dynasty continues without him.
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Old 10-16-2012, 10:29 AM   #4
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Default Re: Eagles fire Juan Castillo

Andy Reid is a f*cking hardheaded guy if ever there was one. I think it has finally dawned on him that he has 10 games to prove he deserves to keep his job and he is about to make the moves that everyone knows he should have been making all along.

Fire Juan.

play to your strengths on defense

Balance your offense



he is starting to sound like he will finally do what needs to be done after 13 f*cking years of trying to force the square peg into the round hole.

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Default Re: Eagles fire Juan Castillo

Right move, wrong timing. Preseason you can implement new defenses, during the season things don't go so well. There is a reason coaches don't get fired much during the season. I doubt this has the effect they want, the defense if they really change a lot will be disjointed.

Can he fire Vick's turnovers?
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Right move, wrong timing. Preseason you can implement new defenses, during the season things don't go so well. There is a reason coaches don't get fired much during the season. I doubt this has the effect they want, the defense if they really change a lot will be disjointed.

Scheme wont change any.. This should be a boost to the defense. I agree that the offseason is the time to make these moves though

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Can he fire Vick's turnovers?

He could manage them if he would just help Vick out a little. The O-line is not good right now. We have a rookie center and a new LT. defenses are just bringing exotic pressure up the middle and corners on the outside.

Andy needs to help his QB by running the ball more to keep defenses honest.

Many times you look at the Eagles offense and it has no rhyme or reason to it. They dont run the ball but they use play action plays . WTF kind of sense does that make? Nobody believes we're going to run the ball, so nobody ever bites... they just go straight for Vick...

He has McCoy who do just about anything he is asked, and they dont use him enough. They also have Bryce Brown and Chris Polk who are very good themselves.. USE THEM!!

Vick is not the kind of QB that should be throwing the ball 40 -50 times a game..

THe eagles go all first half neglecting the run, and then they overload in the 2nd half when they have nothing left to try ... Andy calls that balance

"hey we ran the ball 20 times against the cardinals"

Yeah you ran it 16 times in the 2nd half though.... when you were already down 21 - 6...

Thats not balance.

Help the QB out and he might be able to hold on to the ball more..

Balance your offense and work plays off of each other to form some cohesion, and the O-line may be able to minimize their weaknesses

10 games andy
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one year too late
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Old 10-16-2012, 04:57 PM   #8
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Default Re: Eagles fire Juan Castillo

They asked Rolle about it today and he said he doubts they can switch up too much because they brought in a lot of speed guys who are small to match the system so you can't switch from that to a more mano on mano style because they'll get overpowered. They built a team to fit that wide nine.
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bum bum bum...another juan bites the dust
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Old 10-16-2012, 05:31 PM   #10
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Default Re: Eagles fire Juan Castillo

Pro Bowl Jason Peters who not only pass protects but is one of the best run blocking LT in the NFL loss stung hard. It affected Shady as well, as Shady racked up lots of yards to his side either running, screens you name it. Center is now up in limbo and we saw the affects of that this past Sunday. OL as a unit hasnt played that well. So Vick turnovers are a problem, but the OL doesnt help Vick either. Now you can chime in with bashing Vick all you want. Feel free because most of the stuff is valid. But you cant ignore the key to a QB success is how well the OL plays. We see Brady sit in the pocket and pick defenses apart. Now again "Vick doesnt sit in the pocket he hurts the OL protection" is nice and dandy but watch Vick behind the OL without the pets around for once.

In fact in overtime vs Detroit Lions the first 2 plays were sacks. Whose fault? Todd Herremans who protects Vick blindside got owned by Avril who sacked Vick. Then Nick Fairly blows by Evan Mathis to sack Vick.

Then playcalling has been a disaster. They run it at predictable times because they dont establish the run with one of the games best. Vick passing 46 times is dumb. He's not Brees. He's not Rodgers.

So there is enough blame to go around and it ultimately falls on Reid. He gambled on Vick. He kept the OC. This is the team he built. A team that features talented WRs but none of which can get serious seperation week in and week out. WRs that lack size. No issue with Maclin or Djax but you need to pair them with a big threat at WR.

Rasheed touched in alot of issues with this team. Firing Juan is a desperate move by Reid. Good luck because if you dont get to the SB your tenure here is over.
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Old 10-16-2012, 05:42 PM   #11
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Default Re: Eagles fire Juan Castillo

Vick turns the ball over often because he's trying to make plays where there are no plays. There are the bad throw turnovers but everyone has those. Then there are the trying to be heroic turnovers because his protection broke down completely. I remember the game against SF last year and Eli threw it away or tucked it in approx 40 times it felt like. But he had too. Under similar circumstances in those 40 times (im being facietious on the number clearly) Vick would make 10 fantastic plays literally only he could do, 20 plays where he lucks out and the ball falls out of bounds, and 10 turnovers. This shouldn't be. But this has to fall on the coach at some point, it never changes. NEVER. And it's actually feels like it's gotten worse. Is no one coaching him? Telling him to tuck it in? Taking the choice away and giving him only a safe read on a 3rd and 10 at the goalline rather than letting him run and fumble and lose the 3 points?

I get on Vick because i doubt his work ethic and concentration at times (he seems distracted IMO) but he does have coaches, and he wouldn't be the first QB in the world to have limitations put on him to avoid him making mistakes. They let him play reckless without consequences. Are they expecting him to have a ephinany?

You're right totally, at times he's set up to fail. It's not a good quality that he does, but he's set up to fail at times.
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Old 10-16-2012, 05:57 PM   #12
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Thats what makes Vick, Vick. He makes plays with his legs because few in the NFL can like he does. Gift and curse that comes with that and Reid knows it. He encourages Vick to take off if he thinks he can make the play. He doesnt tell him to sit in the pocket like Brady. He doesnt tell him to play it safe like Alex Smith. Its like people getting on Iverson for shooting 25-27 times a game. Yet no one says anything about the HC Larry Brown encouraging it. Plenty of clips where Brown is seen screaming keep shooting, keep shooting. Sucks Vick fumbles, but he's doing what comes natural and thats making a play with his legs. When pressure is around taking a sack, throwing it away seem to be options Vick battles. When to do it vs when to do what he naturally knows best and thats run and make something out of nothing.

His decision making, reading defenses has regressed when he first took over the job. The fumbles suck but they happen. I can live with those especially if you're trying to make a play. But the bad reads are bothersome. One play last Sunday where he was about to be sacked and off his back foot lofted the ball in the air. Why? Why did he do that I and many others asked. Had it had a lil more air under it? Thats an interception. Thats how close it was and how dumb of a play he made. He's done that more often this season than he has before taking over the job. I dont get it. Another play he threw the ball and good thing for the Lbs being clueless they let an interception go as Vick tried to fit a ball between defenders. Not even Rodgers could have made the throw and we know how accurate and quick he gets the ball off. So those plays where you cringe as more turnovers couldve result make me shake my head.

I dont want to excuse Vick for any blame. I'm just saying you cant blame him more than other areas on offense. If anything gets the most blame its Reid. Outside of that? Vick turnovers vs OC playcalling? Its a wash in my book. Both suck.
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Old 10-16-2012, 06:08 PM   #13
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Reid isnt the only one on his last leg. Vick is too. Reid goes, Vick goes. I expect both gone after season unless a SB appearance is made and Eagles look good doing so. Eagles can sever ties with Vick and no major cap hit.

I didnt mind the gamble on Vick. I didnt see any better options. They overpaid for him but I still dont mind. Sucks it isnt working out how many thought but whatever. Just hope the new Coach, QB, philosophy works this time.
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Maybe Vick will disappear too.
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Its very simple. The Eagles are hard headed.. They like to play 'agressive' style on offense. They wanna jump out to big leads on other teams, and then let their d line loose on the opposing Qb for the rest of the day. But they have never figured out what to do when they fail to get out to a big lead. They have great gameplans for teams in their division, but outside of that? they look lost alot of times.

They were lucky when they had jim johnson and alot of those guys left over from the Ray Rhodes regime, but this is reid's creation, and while it is nice and sleek and dangerous, it's not hardly precise enough to win 11 - 12 games a year. If this team is gonna be so small in so many places (Qb, WR, D-line, O-line), then they need to be more methodical than they are.

Vick is not Brees like Gobb said, and now that Vick is the Qb (don't screw foles over by putting him in behind this line), they need to help him out by taking the ball out of hands more.

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He did that sh*t at least 3 times that I remember on Sunday. Its totally unacceptable.

The sad thing is that I expect him to keep regressing if he keeps taking this kind of pounding week in and week out. Im mean he was getting destroyed out there in the 1st half

I was like

IMO you cant really go with Foles because the O-line isnt prepared to protect him when he has to throw it 50 times a game..

Andy simply needs to break himself and stop playing checkers and start playing chess. Run the ball. Implement more screen plays, and draws. Get defenses used to seeing you run the ball so when you go play action? they might actually bite, and Jackson might actually get open deep.
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