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Old 02-10-2013, 08:56 PM   #946
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Part of it was Grant Hill doing an awesome job locking up Melo. That Clippers bench is just good.
LMAO he had 42. So he didn't have another 18 point quarter. He only TOOK 2 shots. Could it just be that he needed guys other than him to step up? He has ZERO help. He passes out the double to guys like kid only for that lame to pass up an open shot and give it back with no time on the clock. Another problem is, Woodson, once again, benching the hot hand. I don't get it. If a guy is rolling like that, I wouldn't bench him until he misses a few.
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They didn't have Grant Hill on him until towards the end, and he did a good job.

Woodson's lineups and offensive sets (if he has any) are really bothersome too.
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A resounding and triumphant 6 points from our 13 million dollar center. I think he had like 1 defensive rebound in the 4th quarter. Jason Kidd absolutely SUCKS. Woody needs to pull the plug. Novak is his usual one-dimensional self. Prigioni is a scrub. Stoudemire missed countless defensive assignments. Felton's defense has disappeared. Yet when you see the recap of the game on NBA TV, they want to talk about Melo only having 4 points in the 4th. Well mayb because he needs some help! This is my issue with people nd this team man. People wanna suck Chandler and Kidd's balls when we win and completely give them a pass when we lose. W harp on every little thing the guy with 42 and 8 did but ignore the fact that the guy getting all this praise had like ZERO rebounds in the 4th quarter!

When Melo guarded Griffin, he wasn't scoring. When Chandler guarded Griffin, he went off. Same with Amare. Yet every ****ing game, I have to hear about Chandler "changing the culture defensively." What culture? The fact that we actually try? We aren't a good defensive team. Teams drive the lane like the autobahn.
I disagree wholeheartedly about Chandler of course. He shouldnt be guarding Griff. Griff is an agile quick guy going against a center. That portion of your rant is off base. Griff is better than Chandler. Franchise you cant cry every time this guys have an off game.

Felton has not been keeping his man in front of him. Are you killing Felton for not being able to keep John Wall, CP3, Jennings, Teague, Holiday in front of him? I wont totally kill him for it.

Clippers small line up is better than the Knicks small line up. Clippers are deeper with more athletic talented players on the roster as a whole compared to the Knicks. The only way this game would have a different outcome is if the Knicks played methodical dirty ball.

No NBA team will win with porous defense and 3 starters in single digits, and Kidd, JR, Stat as well in single digits.

I'm really not going to give much input yet on this team game to game. I need to see more. Felton been back like 8 games and Shump only 10 games. Its going to take time to get all the parts going together. I am giving the team the month of February before I start criticizing more harshly.

I have not been impressed with Shump at all though. All I've seen from him so far in his short career is a small bit role player. His game just isnt good enough to warrant the accolades being bestowed upon him IMHO. With that said I wouldnt mind trading him for Dudley (he isnt too expensive) and an limited protected 1st round pick.

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A resounding and triumphant 6 points from our 13 million dollar center. I think he had like 1 defensive rebound in the 4th quarter. Jason Kidd absolutely SUCKS. Woody needs to pull the plug. Novak is his usual one-dimensional self. Prigioni is a scrub. Stoudemire missed countless defensive assignments. Felton's defense has disappeared. Yet when you see the recap of the game on NBA TV, they want to talk about Melo only having 4 points in the 4th. Well mayb because he needs some help! This is my issue with people nd this team man. People wanna suck Chandler and Kidd's balls when we win and completely give them a pass when we lose. W harp on every little thing the guy with 42 and 8 did but ignore the fact that the guy getting all this praise had like ZERO rebounds in the 4th quarter!

When Melo guarded Griffin, he wasn't scoring. When Chandler guarded Griffin, he went off. Same with Amare. Yet every ****ing game, I have to hear about Chandler "changing the culture defensively." What culture? The fact that we actually try? We aren't a good defensive team. Teams drive the lane like the autobahn.


I couldn't agree more. Kidd started the season well but he's been USELESS in the past month or two.
And all the "analysts" want to blame Melo for our every loss. He had 42/8 on good efficiency,he locked down Griffin when he was guarding him and basically he's the only reason why we didn't lost by 20+.
Felton did a solid job on offense but his defense sucked. Everyone else besides him and Melo sucked on both ends of the floor.
Shumpert also looks like crap on defense. CP3 just blew by him like he wasn't there but I won't blame him,he's coming off a serious injury.
Amare and Novak look completely lost on defense and Novak is completely useless on offense against good teams.
Tyson Chandler decided not to show up for this one. Sloppy on offense,playing almost no defense and not rebounding the ball. Absolutely horrible performance from him but I won't blame him for this loss because the others weren't any better either.
J.R. with the usual bad shooting night

And Woodson is an idiot. He put Novak and Amare in the lineup in the 2nd quarter,Clippers immediately went on a 15-2 run and took a big lead.
Then he went with the same lineup in the 4th and guess what,Clippers went on a 7-0 run to open the quarter.

HOW STUPID DO YOU HAVE TO BE TO PUT NOVAK AND AMARE ON THE FLOOR TOGETHER ??? I DON'T EVEN PUT THEM TOGETHER IN A 2K13 AND IT'S A F*CKING GAME.

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I decided to take some time and create an analysis of the Knicks players in the last few weeks/months.

Jason Kidd in the last 8 games:
2.6 points,2.9 rebounds,1.9 assists on 21% FG and 18% 3-pt

J.R.Smith shooting since January 1st:
38% FG , 30% 3-pt

Games against +.500 teams in which Steve Novak didn't hit a three pointer since January 1st:
4 games out of 9 (that means that in 44% of the games against better teams he didn't hit a single 3-pt)

Number of lineups Woodson put on the floor since January 1st:
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I disagree wholeheartedly about Chandler of course. He shouldnt be guarding Griff. Griff is an agile quick guy going against a center. That portion of your rant is off base. Griff is better than Chandler. Franchise you cant cry every time this guys have an off game.
So you tell me when I can complain because it seems like nobody other than me and Clutch seem to have the nuts to say something about this guy. I'm tired of sugar coating it. Sugar Coated SH!t is still SH!t. He's overrated. He's overpaid and EVERY SINGLE TIME he stinks it up and gets praised, I'm going to say something about it. I'm tired of it. Sorry. When he has good games, I was the first to compliment him on it. Check a few pages back!

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Yes. I absolutely have! Once again...check a few pages back.

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Tyson Chandler decided not to show up for this one.
And how do you not get up for a team like the Clippers? I thought the best teams bring out the best in the best players.

Bottom line is, you can say "he shouldn't have been on Blake, but neither should Melo. Blake wasn't lighting Melo up. Even still. I'll give you that. What about guys Nikola Pekovic? Averaging like 19 and 15 vs Chandler. I'm just tired of being told we have a prolific defender at the center position, but everytime I watch the games, I leave waiting for that guy to appear. Tyson Chandler is an OK defender. Not a DPOY and certainly not a 13 mill player.
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Jason Kidd in the last 8 games:
2.6 points,2.9 rebounds,1.9 assists on 21% FG and 18% 3-pt

Some peple can make their argumnents for Tyson Chandler. You can't forJason Kidd. He sucks. Period. End of story. IDGAF about his so called leadership. None of us, including that clown Mike Breen, are in the locker room with those guys. They aren't in the huddle. Kidd sits at the end of the bench when he comes out the game. They had him mic'd up. He jokingly said "when I come out, I just go into my little hole at the end of the bench." Either way, leadership or no leadership, it doesn't supercede production. I'll take 15 mute players with skill over 15 bums who are "vocal leaders" any day. Jason Kidd flat out SUCKS. He had a good start to the season. Wasnt great. It was grossly overhyped. Then he started playing like he same scrub I told you he'd be since is acquisition was just a rumor. He' a waste of money and now we're stuck with 3 million dollars worth of garbage for the next 3 years.

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4 games out of 9 (that means that in 44% of the games against better teams he didn't hit a single 3-pt)
With Steve Novak, you can tell within the first 2 possessions whether he'll be of any use in the game. The good teams close out on 3 point hooter. That's why he stinks it up when we play +.500 tems. And once again, well be on the hook with him for the next 4 years. I say trade him now while th cloak is still over people's eyes.
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I really like Steve Novak but I agree with you and think we should trade the guy while he still has some value.

He's useless in the playoffs and starting to become useless in the regular season too. We need to get a shooter who can come off the screens and if they contest him at least have some sort of ball handling so he can drive the ball without losing it. Something like J.J.Redick or Kyle Korver.
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I have no issue with anyone calling out a player I historically am that guy. Chandler isnt going anywhere. And this was not one of his better games. With that said his bad games are not his alone and they arent frequent enough to warrant the constant ridicule. Your stance has been heard its not going to change anything and no one has disagreed with you. I dont think he's as bad as you are making him out to be though. Look at who the Knicks put in the front court Shump, Melo, Chandler really this is going to get the team outrebounded all the time and defense wont nearly be that good. Ray Kidd in the back court only one of them can shoot decently so lets see you put out a small, non shooting, non rebounding, non defending rotation. 3 players in the starting line up that have no offensive game of there own in the matter of creating their own shot, penetration, or good shooting. Is it really all Chandler's fault?

I am not going to kill Melo when he's the Knicks only good player for the most part. I wont kill Chandler because he's out manned in the paint every night.

I think the coaching has to take a lot of the blame. I dont think starting Ray, Kidd, Shump, Melo, Chandler is very smart. That lineup is quite easy to defend and struggles to score and I believe he thinks its a good defensive unit. I think Woodson has an idea what he wants and he is pushing the rotation the way he ideally sees it but he is still searching for a good combination. I think he is going to have tweak it.

Like I said earlier this team needs a good month of togetherness to see what it will look like. Unfortunately there will be some inconsistencies.


Rumors...

Jared Dudley "has been made available in trade talks," according to Yahoo! Sports, and the Suns may be offering him in a package to the Knicks for Iman Shumpert.
There are no indications that a deal is imminent, but at the very least Dudley is now firmly on our trade-deadline radar. He's averaging over 31 minutes per game while starting for Phoenix this season, and it's hard to imagine him landing a much bigger role for a new team.
Source: Yahoo! Sports

The Sixers and Knicks are reportedly interested in trading for Lou Amundson.
Amundson hasn't appeared in a game since January 25 and has yet to eclipse 23 minutes in any game this season. ESPN 1500 writes that the best the Timberwolves could get for him is a "heavily protected future second-round pick," and that sounds about right for the seldom-used backup big man.
Source: ESPN 1500

Sources tell Yahoo! Sports that the Knicks are showing interest in free agent PF Kenyon Martin.
Rasheed Wallace's foot injury continues to linger, so the Knicks are looking for another washed up defensive specialist. Martin has been on the street all season even though he's let it be known he'll play for the veteran minimum.
Source: Yahoo! Sports

The Knicks remain interested in signing Josh Howard, a source tells ESPN New York.
It's hard to see how Howard would fit onto New York's veteran roster, but the Knicks have reportedly had "recent conversations with his representatives." With constant knee issues and a declining game, Howard isn't a fantasy asset regardless of where he lands.
Source: ESPN New York
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That Amundson rumor has to be old, he got waived a couple days ago.

As far as the game goes, the small ineup once again is a failure.

Outside of Felton no guard showed a lick of heart or care into their games.

National TV Home Court? You bring your best fro that and not your worst.

Feel bad for Melo he seriously has little help.

I'm surprised at how well he defended Blake Griffin....he showed up, the team should give back their gamechecks.
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That Amundson rumor has to be old, he got waived a couple days ago.

As far as the game goes, the small ineup once again is a failure.

Outside of Felton no guard showed a lick of heart or care into their games.

National TV Home Court? You bring your best fro that and not your worst.

Feel bad for Melo he seriously has little help.

I'm surprised at how well he defended Blake Griffin....he showed up, the team should give back their gamechecks.
Josh Howard rumor is old. Kmart is from January, Amundson and Dudley the past week.
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I have no issue with anyone calling out a player I historically am that guy. Chandler isnt going anywhere. And this was not one of his better games. With that said his bad games are not his alone and they arent frequent enough to warrant the constant ridicule. Your stance has been heard its not going to change anything and no one has disagreed with you. I dont think he's as bad as you are making him out to be though. Look at who the Knicks put in the front court Shump, Melo, Chandler really this is going to get the team outrebounded all the time and defense wont nearly be that good. Ray Kidd in the back court only one of them can shoot decently so lets see you put out a small, non shooting, non rebounding, non defending rotation. 3 players in the starting line up that have no offensive game of there own in the matter of creating their own shot, penetration, or good shooting. Is it really all Chandler's fault?

I am not going to kill Melo when he's the Knicks only good player for the most part. I wont kill Chandler because he's out manned in the paint every night.

I think the coaching has to take a lot of the blame. I dont think starting Ray, Kidd, Shump, Melo, Chandler is very smart. That lineup is quite easy to defend and struggles to score and I believe he thinks its a good defensive unit. I think Woodson has an idea what he wants and he is pushing the rotation the way he ideally sees it but he is still searching for a good combination. I think he is going to have tweak it.

Like I said earlier this team needs a good month of togetherness to see what it will look like. Unfortunately there will be some inconsistencies.


Rumors...

Jared Dudley "has been made available in trade talks," according to Yahoo! Sports, and the Suns may be offering him in a package to the Knicks for Iman Shumpert.
There are no indications that a deal is imminent, but at the very least Dudley is now firmly on our trade-deadline radar. He's averaging over 31 minutes per game while starting for Phoenix this season, and it's hard to imagine him landing a much bigger role for a new team.
Source: Yahoo! Sports

The Sixers and Knicks are reportedly interested in trading for Lou Amundson.
Amundson hasn't appeared in a game since January 25 and has yet to eclipse 23 minutes in any game this season. ESPN 1500 writes that the best the Timberwolves could get for him is a "heavily protected future second-round pick," and that sounds about right for the seldom-used backup big man.
Source: ESPN 1500

Sources tell Yahoo! Sports that the Knicks are showing interest in free agent PF Kenyon Martin.
Rasheed Wallace's foot injury continues to linger, so the Knicks are looking for another washed up defensive specialist. Martin has been on the street all season even though he's let it be known he'll play for the veteran minimum.
Source: Yahoo! Sports

The Knicks remain interested in signing Josh Howard, a source tells ESPN New York.
It's hard to see how Howard would fit onto New York's veteran roster, but the Knicks have reportedly had "recent conversations with his representatives." With constant knee issues and a declining game, Howard isn't a fantasy asset regardless of where he lands.
Source: ESPN New York

This is my issue though. When Melo has a bad game...he just had a bad game. when Amare has a bad game...he just had a bad game. Felton and JR have a bad game...they just had bad games. When Tyson Chandler has a bad game... it's someone else's fault. Stop it! IDGAF about the lineup. This is who he's been his entire career. He hasn't averaged over a block his entire career. Not in Dallas. Not in Charlotte. Not in New Orleans. He is just a decent defender masquerading as if he's Dikembe Mutumbo.

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Feel bad for Melo he seriously has little help.

I'm surprised at how well he defended Blake Griffin....he showed up, the team should give back their gamechecks.

Thank You. And notice, I didn't just point out Chandler's game. Kidd stunk it up. I ripped him. Novak stunk it up. I ripped him. My issue is, every year, we have this "wait and see" approach with these suspect moves. I wait, and then I see the same shit I KNEW was going to happen to begin with. I said from jump, Kidd will start out playing decently, then we'll be fooled and start him at the 2. Then he'll become the scrub I knew he was all alng. I said that this summer! I'm not trying to come off as nostradamus but c'mon. I'm in my 20's and I can see something that a guy getting paid 6+ figures with years of experience can't? It's common sense. Kidd is DONE!

BTW, I totally agree on the lineup stuff. Knock it off with the small ball...especially against bigger teams. Who are you fooling? What advantage is it creating?
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As much as I dont think the team is a contender, but could, at max, make ECF depending on matchup, it isn't just because of the talent on the team.

It's the entire talent on the team.
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I really like Steve Novak but I agree with you and think we should trade the guy while he still has some value.

He's useless in the playoffs and starting to become useless in the regular season too. We need to get a shooter who can come off the screens and if they contest him at least have some sort of ball handling so he can drive the ball without losing it. Something like J.J.Redick or Kyle Korver.

Yes! I love Novak but those two would be significant upgrades for the 3 pt specialist role because they're not entirely dependent on being set up for their shots. They can handle the rock, create for themselves, they're much quicker, and at least in Korver's case, better defenders. Novak gets shut down and shut out by every good team we play...
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As much as I dont think the team is a contender, but could, at max, make ECF depending on matchup, it isn't just because of the talent on the team.

It's the entire talent on the team.
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I don't think the team could win it all- but I do think its a couple of the right players from being able to.

The team now relies on Kidd, Camby, Rasheed. We have already seen that isn't good.


I think it's still pg and pf where the team has to improve. Teams want ray Felton to be a primary offensive option. If they can get the Knicks to play a Felton/chandler 2 man game they'll be thrilled.
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