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Old 02-14-2013, 01:56 PM   #991
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Mike Woodson has to make serious changes to his lineup and rotations. Jason Kidd cannot be a starter anymore. Iman Shumpert has to start producing otherwise he needs to be on the bench. We cannot have 40% of our starting lineup produce nothing. It puts way too much pressure on Melo to score, especially considering the other 2 starters (Tyson and Felton) can't be trusted to produce either. Also Felton needs to become a creator on offense and not a chucker. I'm not sure he can though.


Amar'e and JR Smith should both start. They are 2 of our top producers, and we need to rely on them as much as possible. Fck this "spark off the bench" bullcrap. What good is a spark off the bench when the starting lineup is always behind?
So Iman isnt a scorer. And if he isnt good defensively he is useless! I'll say it again they should consider trading while he has value. But most fans overrate him anyways.

Felton cant create for guys that has no game. So there are only 4 players that can do anything offensively on this team; Felton, Melo, JR, Copeland. But yes lets bash Felton. So yes Felton is an average player trying to do more than his skill set but there isnt much choice in the situation.

I wouldnt bash Melo over having a bad shooting night. He has to score and keep trying to score. What else can he do? He could try to do other things like passing and defending but no one else is good enough to pick up that slack. But when Felton tries to do more he gets bashed.

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Amar'e can't do anything offensively? He needs the ball way more than he's getting it.
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Old 02-14-2013, 04:27 PM   #993
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Iman's value is as low as it has ever been. Why would you trade him now? You don't sell low. You sell high.


And Felton is our 4th best offensive player, after Melo, Amare, and Earl Smith, in that order. He should never be shooting more than any of them, unless he is on fire. His best game since he came back was the Detroit game when he had 4 points, and 9 assists.



And just to further prove why he should not be shooting - he has the worst points per shot average for all point guards in the NBA.

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/pl...ds/order/false

He is at 1.01 pps, which is the epitome of a chucker.
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They need to get Felton and Amar'e on the court together more, or let Prigioni run the offense more when he's out there. Woody is way too enomored with isos, a lesson he should have learned back in Atlanta.
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Old 02-14-2013, 05:11 PM   #995
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Iman's value is as low as it has ever been. Why would you trade him now? You don't sell low. You sell high.


And Felton is our 4th best offensive player, after Melo, Amare, and Earl Smith, in that order. He should never be shooting more than any of them, unless he is on fire. His best game since he came back was the Detroit game when he had 4 points, and 9 assists.



And just to further prove why he should not be shooting - he has the worst points per shot average for all point guards in the NBA.

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/pl...ds/order/false

He is at 1.01 pps, which is the epitome of a chucker.
Other than Melo Felton was the only player to show up against the Clippers.
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Old 02-14-2013, 09:41 PM   #996
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Iman's value is as low as it has ever been. Why would you trade him now? You don't sell low. You sell high.


And Felton is our 4th best offensive player, after Melo, Amare, and Earl Smith, in that order. He should never be shooting more than any of them, unless he is on fire. His best game since he came back was the Detroit game when he had 4 points, and 9 assists.



And just to further prove why he should not be shooting - he has the worst points per shot average for all point guards in the NBA.

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/pl...ds/order/false

He is at 1.01 pps, which is the epitome of a chucker.
So how does his value go up when the more he plays the more he gets exposed? All he can do is prove he's healthy. So there are more than one way to think about this. Like I said it better be up for consideration.

So lets see you want the only other player on the floor not named melo and jr to not attempt shots. Brilliant idea so lets take away another weapon on the team thats pretty much weaponless Let the PG be like Jkidd and not shoot and let the defense sag off another player so Melo can play with 4 non shooters....

This is not how basketball works.
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Old 02-15-2013, 01:21 AM   #997
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So how does his value go up when the more he plays the more he gets exposed? All he can do is prove he's healthy. So there are more than one way to think about this. Like I said it better be up for consideration.

So lets see you want the only other player on the floor not named melo and jr to not attempt shots. Brilliant idea so lets take away another weapon on the team thats pretty much weaponless Let the PG be like Jkidd and not shoot and let the defense sag off another player so Melo can play with 4 non shooters....

This is not how basketball works.


No I want Amare on the floor more often with Melo.

Pecking order should be:
1 Melo
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3 JR
4 Shumpert of Felton
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No I want Amare on the floor more often with Melo.

Pecking order should be:
1 Melo
2 Amare
3 JR
4 Shumpert of Felton
I have no qualms about that. But a PG is going to have to shoot when open. I dont want Felton shooting early in the clock.

Shump cant shoot or finish so that makes no sense.
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Other than Melo Felton was the only player to show up against the Clippers.


Who cares? We lost. Amare was playing well too, but Mr Potato Head only played him for 25 minutes.
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Who cares? We lost. Amare was playing well too, but Mr Potato Head only played him for 25 minutes.
The dreams of Amare playing more than 25 are pretty much history.
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The dreams of Amare playing more than 25 are pretty much history........
.....until the playoffs.
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The dreams of Amare playing more than 25 are pretty much history.


http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/n...lay-30-minutes


He's been cleared for 30. Right now he is a $20 million bench warmer. That's a complete waste of resources, and something only the Knicks would do. He still has a lot left in the tank, and Potato Head is wasting it to help Melo get his MVP/scoring title.

Coincidentally he is also burning out Melo having him play 40+ minutes, and chucking to no end. He's already missed 7 games this year, and he'll have nothing left in the tank by April.
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You really think he's holding back amare at the expense of a scoring title and a no shot at mvp for Melo?

He's holding him in his spot because Amare cannot play that much anymore.

You guys are setting yourself up for disappointment if you think Amare is going for 30 minutes in March with 18 games in 31 nights and 6 back to backs.

It's not going down.

Playoffs...maybe, and i doubt it even then.
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You really think he's holding back amare at the expense of a scoring title and a no shot at mvp for Melo?

He's holding him in his spot because Amare cannot play that much anymore.

You guys are setting yourself up for disappointment if you think Amare is going for 30 minutes in March with 18 games in 31 nights and 6 back to backs.

It's not going down.

Playoffs...maybe, and i doubt it even then.
What's making you think this when apparently his doctors disagree? He looks fine to me.

I think it's pretty obvious, and has been for some time, that Woodson doesn't like him.
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I think some of you are really taking Amare and Shumpert's injuries for granted. They didn't suffer papercuts. Derrick Rose suffered a similar injury to Shump and he still isn't back. Amare has back AND knee issues.
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