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Old 10-13-2012, 01:30 PM   #46
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People don't realize how many times Kobe had to take bailout shots because the offense was so stagnant. The team would waste time and give it to Kobe last second to pull off a miracle.

A lot of people don't watch the games and just look at box scores and assume all Kobe did was shot jack. 41%? Really? Some people so desperately root for his failure. With the help he has now he will most likely end up shooting a better percentage and not a far worse one. Now he will get to play less minutes, have less ball handling pressure and more options to dish the ball out to. The assumption that he would shoot anywhere from 39%-43% sounds ridiculous. The disrespect a legend gets...
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Old 10-13-2012, 01:37 PM   #47
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Old 10-13-2012, 02:37 PM   #48
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It's amazing how Kobe was actually 43.0% last year. It felt like 35.0% when I was watching him play every game.
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Old 10-13-2012, 02:54 PM   #49
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I don't see what the big deal was about Kobe shooting 43% last season. OMG, a whole 2% decrease.

45% - Good
43% - Shot jacking selfish loser

People are goofy.
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Old 10-13-2012, 03:03 PM   #50
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I don't see what the big deal was about Kobe shooting 43% last season. OMG, a whole 2% decrease.

45% - Good
43% - Shot jacking selfish loser

People are goofy.
Nobody ever thought Kobe's 45% was ever good.

People have been on Kobe's low FG% his entire career mainly because of how high Lebron, MJ, and Wade's FG% are.
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Old 10-13-2012, 03:05 PM   #51
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More efficient Iverson, thus a 45% FG percentage.
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Old 10-13-2012, 03:15 PM   #52
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More efficient Iverson, thus a 45% FG percentage.

Despite Iversons low FG%, he was great in his own right. Regardless, Kobe is no Iverson. Kobe is above and beyond Iverson in nearly every way imaginable. To call him a more efficient Iverson was to try to belittle him right? It's like calling LeBron a more efficient Tmac or Shawn Kemp. Just leave and never come back, FUKKIN tool
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Default Re: Predict Kobe's FG% this year

Off the top 43.5 %.

If the puzzle works for him 45.
If he gets annoyed that even when he's hot he can't dominate the ball then its 42%.

He has to leave his instinctive game to make the team work. Kobe got used to teams being built around him so this will be different and kind of mess with his concentration a bit. Kobe is still the scorer on this team but he has to be decoy and facilitator as well. So he has to fight old habits of being the man, while letting DH be the man, still Kobe will actually have to be the man, cause he's still the finisher. Yeah, its complicated for Kobe.
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Depends. If most of his shots come in iso's, then probably a similar outing like last season. If he gets more of his shots off the ball, then I could see him in the 45-48 range.
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Old 10-14-2012, 11:08 PM   #55
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I'm not sure Nash will change Kobe's FG% much. Kobe isn't the type of player whose going to benefit much from a point guard. He's always been a guy who prefers to create his own shot and in general, players who are more finishers, particularly big men like Tyson Chandler for example are guys who benefit more from great passing point guards. I'd say Dwight, and perhaps Gasol to a lesser extent may benefit. But we're not going to see Phoenix Steve Nash. He's not going to have the ball in his hands at all times in a system that maximizes his strengths. Nash can definitely help this team a lot for a variety of reasons, but I doubt we'll see him average double figure assists or make the all-star team.

Anyway, I see Kobe averaging about 24/5/4, 44 FG%.

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People don't realize how many times Kobe had to take bailout shots because the offense was so stagnant. The team would waste time and give it to Kobe last second to pull off a miracle.

I blame Mike Brown for some of their offensive struggles, but some of those bailout shots were Kobe's fault. He dribbled and held the ball quite a bit last year. He has to make quicker, more decisive moves, imo, especially with all of the offensive talent on this team.

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He has to leave his instinctive game to make the team work. Kobe got used to teams being built around him so this will be different and kind of mess with his concentration a bit. Kobe is still the scorer on this team but he has to be decoy and facilitator as well. So he has to fight old habits of being the man, while letting DH be the man, still Kobe will actually have to be the man, cause he's still the finisher. Yeah, its complicated for Kobe.

Good post, I agree with a lot of this. There are arguments for both Kobe and Dwight to be the first option. Kobe can get his shot from anywhere whenever he wants and makes his free throws, but Dwight will get more high percentage shots, be a lot more efficient and has the physical presence that will get teams into foul trouble. Especially if we see 2011 Dwight. Actually, Dwight's improved passing out of double teams last year makes him a more attractive offensive option, but he has to at least his FT% up to his usual 59-60%. He's not dominant enough to really get away with shooting below 50% like he did last season. What's funny is that you can still make a case than Gasol deserves to be more featured in the offense than Dwight, but after seeing Brown make Gasol the 3rd option in favor of an inferior offensive player Bynum, we know that won't come into play.

Anyway, Kobe will be the first option for at least this year. That's obvious, but who should be the first option is up for debate.

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More efficient Iverson, thus a 45% FG percentage.
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Old 10-14-2012, 11:36 PM   #58
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People act like FG% is the end all and be all when judging players. In fact I only see it ever brought up to hate on Kobe or Iverson, yet it's always ignored when bigs shoot below standards.
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I don't expect Kobe's FG% to skyrocket up to 50%, I mean he never was the type of player to just play offball a lot and spot up, things like that. He prefers to initiate things off the dribble. I think he could shoot anywhere from 43-45%. I'll give him a 45% since Nash should definitely take some of the scoring load off Kobe, less shot attempts should mean higher effciency
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People act like FG% is the end all and be all when judging players. In fact I only see it ever brought up to hate on Kobe or Iverson, yet it's always ignored when bigs shoot below standards.


This, the difference between someone shooting 45% and 50% is only making one extra shot in every 20. The bail out shots star players have to take can easily account for this. Too much is made of fg%
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