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Old 01-08-2016, 04:48 AM   #1
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Default Napoleon Bonaparte's view on the Qur'an

"In 'Bonaparte Et L'Islam', by Christian Cherfils, published in 1914, Napoleon Bonaparte is officially recorded as having made the following declaration:


'I hope that the time is not far off, when I will be able to unite all the wise and educated men from all countries and establish a uniform regime based on the principles of the Qur'an, which alone are true and alone can lead men to happiness...' (Correspondence de Napoleon Ist, N3148 (Uti sup.).

He was an ardent opponent of interest and compound interest. When shown a table of compound interest, he reflected and said:


"It is astonishing that this monster interest has not devoured the whole of humanity. It would have done so long ago, had not revolution and bankruptcy acted as counter poison." (Quoted in, Lincoln, Money martyred)

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Old 01-08-2016, 04:51 AM   #2
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Interest is awesome. It gives people incentives to pay back loans faster, or to save their money up. If you gentiles don't like interest on loans, stop borrowing money you can't pay back in time!


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Old 01-08-2016, 05:37 AM   #3
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Interest is awesome. It gives people incentives to pay back loans faster, or to save their money up. If you gentiles don't like interest on loans, stop borrowing money you can't pay back in time!


Hold this L Napoleon and Islamites
"When a government is dependent upon bankers for money, they and not the leaders of the government control the situation, since the hand that gives is above the hand that takes... Money has no motherland; financiers are without patriotism and without decency; their sole object is gain."

the banks should serve the people, not the other way around.

“Religions are always based on miracles, on such things than nobody listens to like Trinity. Jesus called himself the son of God and he was a descendant of David. I prefer the religion of Muhammad. It has less ridiculous things than ours; the turks also call us idolaters.”

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Default Re: Napoleon Bonaparte's view on the Qur'an

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"In 'Bonaparte Et L'Islam', by Christian Cherfils, published in 1914, Napoleon Bonaparte is officially recorded as having made the following declaration:


'I hope that the time is not far off, when I will be able to unite all the wise and educated men from all countries and establish a uniform regime based on the principles of the Qur'an, which alone are true and alone can lead men to happiness...' (Correspondence de Napoleon Ist, N3148 (Uti sup.).

He was an ardent opponent of interest and compound interest. When shown a table of compound interest, he reflected and said:


"It is astonishing that this monster interest has not devoured the whole of humanity. It would have done so long ago, had not revolution and bankruptcy acted as counter poison." (Quoted in, Lincoln, Money martyred)

jews hold this L

You're not helping bro but only instigating the matter.

Look at the social climate of the world right now and with respect to the German ISH members, now is not a time to try and brag about what Napoleon has to say about Islam.

Show some class unless you are just as barbaric as the immigrants in Germany.
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Old 01-08-2016, 06:49 AM   #5
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“Religion is excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet. Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich.”

Napoleon knew what's up.
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Old 01-08-2016, 09:14 AM   #6
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"In 'Bonaparte Et L'Islam', by Christian Cherfils, published in 1914, Napoleon Bonaparte is officially recorded as having made the following declaration:


'I hope that the time is not far off, when I will be able to unite all the wise and educated men from all countries and establish a uniform regime based on the principles of the Qur'an, which alone are true and alone can lead men to happiness...' (Correspondence de Napoleon Ist, N3148 (Uti sup.).

He was an ardent opponent of interest and compound interest. When shown a table of compound interest, he reflected and said:


"It is astonishing that this monster interest has not devoured the whole of humanity. It would have done so long ago, had not revolution and bankruptcy acted as counter poison." (Quoted in, Lincoln, Money martyred)

jews hold this L

Cool, so the biggest european warmonger before Hitler liked the book of another warmonger. quel surprise!
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France is a gay cuck nation, so is Napoleon, DGAF about his opinion
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Interest is awesome. It gives people incentives to pay back loans faster, or to save their money up. If you gentiles don't like interest on loans, stop borrowing money you can't pay back in time!


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Old 01-08-2016, 11:38 AM   #9
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I've been reading Hume's History of England lately, and it is amazing how the Jews, despite being constantly persecuted, had managed always to acquire significant wealth; there they were being persecuted all of England, but at the same time, King John was himself penurious, and begging them for money.

Interesting side-story: there was a Jew who refused to pay John the required amount, and so John imprisoned him and levied a penalty that he'd have a tooth extracted each day until he paid the duty - he lost seven teeth before giving in
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I've been reading Hume's History of England lately, and it is amazing how the Jews, despite being constantly persecuted, had managed always to acquire significant wealth; there they were being persecuted all of England, but at the same time, King John was himself penurious, and begging them for money.


Thanks to Christian backwardness during the Middle Ages.

Jews were persecuted & barred from many professions but one - money lending.

Usury was not considered a Christian endeavor & the Christian Church banned the charging of interest by Christians to other Christians.
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Thanks to Christian backwardness during the Middle Ages.

Jews were persecuted & barred from many professions but one - money lending.

Usury was not considered a Christian endeavor & the Christian Church banned the charging of interest by Christians to other Christians.

This.

Christians didn't leave Jews many options but to become money lenders/bankers and then they turn around and accuse them of being greedy, covetous, etc. Hence the caricature of Shylock and others.

Is that what the chosen people refer to as a Golem?
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Old 01-08-2016, 04:00 PM   #12
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Thanks to Christian backwardness during the Middle Ages.

Jews were persecuted & barred from many professions but one - money lending.

Usury was not considered a Christian endeavor & the Christian Church banned the charging of interest by Christians to other Christians.
God you're dim, and boring too. Every opinion you have on here is recycled textbook garbage; the sort of thing i'd expect to hear out of the mouth of some 20 year old University automaton. Christian backwardness? I don't think so. Before Christianity came to Britain there were literally no records, little culture, no civilisation or keeping of historical record - Britain was an Island of savages before it became Christian (Julius Caesar was so disdainful of the place he thought it not even worth conquering once he had laid eyes on it). I think you'll find the persecution of people who are different, particularly if they are also successful, is a human norm, one which has persisted in all times and all places. The Athenians would happily dominate, massacre and enslave their Greek cousins over some trivial power dispute, as would Rome (and these were the more civilised peoples of the world).

Jews have been persecuted everywhere, as have been all small minorities that out-achieve the locals - that is human nature; it has little to do with Christianity, which more than anything else, brought light into the Middle Ages, and saved Europe from darkness after the collapse of Rome.

If you had anything but the most superficial understanding of history then you would know at least this. If Christianity was so "backwards" then why were the 10s of thousands of years of human existence before Christianity so bleak, and why did this forward-looking modern civilisation you now cherish not start to emerge until after Christianity had laid deep roots in Europe, and its doctrines had spread a distaste for war that did not exist in Europe up to that point?

Romans - warrior people. Vikings - warrior people. Germanic Tribes - Warrior people. Ancient Greeks? You guessed it...

Being virtuous in these places was almost indivisible from being a great warrior or military commander.

But this all changed how, by magic amirite? The inevitable wheels of "progress"? - or is it like Marx: "improvements in the material productive processes" or whatever it was?

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OP hoping nobody knows the part of history where Napoleon launched a Campaign in the Orient (Egypt and Syria) which was the pretext for all of his phony pro-Islam sentiment to the locals.


But great thread, OP. Lots of substance and context. A whole new world of perspective has been opened from Napoleon's pretend admiration for Islam
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This.

Christians didn't leave Jews many options but to become money lenders/bankers and then they turn around and accuse them of being greedy, covetous, etc. Hence the caricature of Shylock and others.

Is that what the chosen people refer to as a Golem?


Jews were also used heavily as tax collectors. It's called Tax Farming. Here is a short lecture on the history.

One of the main reasons for this was to specifically divert the attention of the peasants away from the Monarch, and onto the outsiders who did the actual physical collecting. Jews and peasants were unlikely to collude together against the king because they had no familiarity with each other. Jews were brought in specifically as foreigners to stoke the ire of the peasants and keep their attention on the outside element, rather than the internal processes of the state.


Sound familiar?
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God you're dim, and boring too. Every opinion you have on here is recycled textbook garbage; the sort of thing i'd expect to hear out of the mouth of some 20 year old University automaton. Christian backwardness? I don't think so. Before Christianity came to Britain there were literally no records, little culture, no civilisation or keeping of historical record - Britain was an Island of savages before it became Christian (Julius Caesar was so disdainful of the place he thought it not even worth conquering once he had laid eyes on it). I think you'll find the persecution of people who are different, particularly if they are also successful, is a human norm, one which has persisted in all times and all places. The Athenians would happily dominate, massacre and enslave their Greek cousins over some trivial power dispute, as would Rome (and these were the more civilised peoples of the world).

Jews have been persecuted everywhere, as have been all small minorities that out-achieve the locals - that is human nature; it has little to do with Christianity, which more than anything else, brought light into the Middle Ages, and saved Europe from darkness after the collapse of Rome.

If you had anything but the most superficial understanding of history then you would know at least this. If Christianity was so "backwards" then why were the 10s of thousands of years of human existence before Christianity so bleak, and why did this forward-looking modern civilisation you now cherish not start to emerge until after Christianity had laid deep roots in Europe, and its doctrines had spread a distaste for war that did not exist in Europe up to that point?

Romans - warrior people. Vikings - warrior people. Germanic Tribes - Warrior people. Ancient Greeks? You guessed it...

Being virtuous in these places was almost indivisible from being a great warrior or military commander.

But this all changed how, by magic amirite? The inevitable wheels of "progress"? - or is it like Marx: "improvements in the material productive processes" or whatever it was?
Nobody's going to read this or reply to it, dude. I've been doing this for years. If it's longer than 4 lines, forget it.

Good post.
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