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Old 10-18-2012, 06:59 PM   #1
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Default who wins more championships---Kobe/Shaq or LBJ/Dwight?

Place your votes, ISH! 2014 is looking like a great year for basketball!
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Old 10-18-2012, 07:02 PM   #2
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Default Re: who wins more championships---Kobe/Shaq or LBJ/Dwight?

I would pick the team that had a legit freaking dynasty over 2 players who have never even played together.
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Default Re: who wins more championships---Kobe/Shaq or LBJ/Dwight?

If that ever happens, it's going to depend entirely on how well they get along and who's coaching. You have two top 10 GOAT players and possibly the GOAT coach vs. a future top 10 GOAT and who knows what with Dwight.
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Default Re: who wins more championships---Kobe/Shaq or LBJ/Dwight?

In essence, you're asking who would win more rings, pre-prime Kobe/prime Shaq or pre-prime Lebron/ prime Dwight. Well, I'm assuming that's what you're asking, since otherwise you're comparing a peak, 28 year old Lebron to a young 22 year old Kobe.

So to answer, I think they win 2-3 rings, however they don't three-peat or dominate the way the 2000-2002 Lakers did. But, a Lebron/Dwight pick and roll would just be too much for most teams to handle, and they likely get a repeat in somewhere together.

Again, speaking of a 22-ish Lebron with current Dwight.
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Old 10-18-2012, 07:20 PM   #5
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Probably Shaq/Kobe.
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Default Re: who wins more championships---Kobe/Shaq or LBJ/Dwight?

Prime SHAQ.. it doesn't matter if you give him Kobe or Lebron.
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Default Re: who wins more championships---Kobe/Shaq or LBJ/Dwight?

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In essence, you're asking who would win more rings, pre-prime Kobe/prime Shaq or pre-prime Lebron/ prime Dwight. Well, I'm assuming that's what you're asking, since otherwise you're comparing a peak, 28 year old Lebron to a young 22 year old Kobe.

Yeah, this. ^^^

The early '00 pair of Shaq + Kobe or the soon-to-be pair of LBJ + Dwight.
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Old 10-18-2012, 07:36 PM   #8
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Prime SHAQ.. it doesn't matter if you give him Kobe or Lebron.

I am not sure, Shaq was more dominant offensively than Dwight... but Dwight is/was more dominant defensively and can hold his own offensively... meanwhile Lebron is just a more of a talent than Kobe overall on both ends (especially compared to that 00' Kobe)... The type of inside/outside defense Lebron/Dwight would implement is just more imposing and Dwight i always said would be the most perfect complementary player Lebron could ever had in his life and vice versa (on both ends of the floor).... surround them with ONLY shooters.... and ..... ouch.....

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Old 10-18-2012, 07:47 PM   #9
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Default Re: who wins more championships---Kobe/Shaq or LBJ/Dwight?

Kobe was better one on one defender than Lebron and scorer & clutch
. only thing Lebron does better is pass more.

Even If Dwight is great defensively, he's not stoping Shaq

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Mutombo was probably better defender than Howard..it didn't help against Shaq.
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Mutombo was probably better defender than Howard..it didn't help against Shaq.

mutombo was a nice shot blocker but he aint stoping the top 10 centers in NBA
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Default Re: who wins more championships---Kobe/Shaq or LBJ/Dwight?

2002-03 Shaq & Kobe>>>Any version of Dwight & Bron

Kobe: 30/7/6/2/1 46/38/84
Shaq: 28/11/3/1/2 57/0/62
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I am not sure, Shaq was more dominant offensively than Dwight... but Dwight is/was more dominant defensively and can hold his own offensively... meanwhile Lebron is just a more of a talent than Kobe overall on both ends (especially compared to that 00' Kobe)... The type of inside/outside defense Lebron/Dwight would implement is just more imposing and Dwight i always said would be the most perfect complementary player Lebron could ever had in his life and vice versa (on both ends of the floor).... surround them with ONLY shooters.... and ..... ouch.....

Lebron's lack of a competent jumpshot would inherently hurt those triangle-using Lakers if Kobe was replaced with him. The Lakers would undoubtedly still dominate in general, but that weakness in Lebron's game would hurt LA, as teams would be able to sag off Lebron and pack out the paint. What made those LA teams so difficult to guard was the combination of perimeter and interior dominance. Though Lebron is indeed a dominant perimeter player, in truth he is a perimeter player who dominates from the interior.

Again, in general the Lakers would still dominate with a 20 year old Lebron and peak Shaq, but your uncanny attempts of displaying Lebron as this weakness-free player is getting kind of old, ya know?
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Kobe was better one on one defender than Lebron and scorer & clutch
. only thing Lebron does better is pass more.

Even If Dwight is great defensively, he's not stoping Shaq

Kobe had slightly better lateral quickness man to man against an opponent facing up on the perimeter, but Lebron makes up for it with length (and if you do blow by him he has ridicilous recovery and would block your shot if you attempt a layup/dunk)... its a bit different, but both effective ways... now... lets think about the rest of the defense... help defense, transition defense, guarding up to 5 positions... Lebron is stronger, faster, more athletic and much bigger aswell (which he abuses to the max defensively)... Lebron is more impactful defensively than Kobe ever was... him being a runner up for DPOY and him getting the most 1st all-defensive team votes (even more than the guy who won the DPOY that year, Chandler) is not a fluke and not something Kobe was able to do either...

Scorer? Kobe implemented more moves and loves/loved to hoist up much more shots, that is as far as it goes... but he was not really more of a productive/efficient of a scorer....

Passer? That is one understatement...

Then you forgot... Rebounding.... and Versatility... i spoke a bit of defensive versatility above... but dont forget Lebrons offensive versatility.... he can be your:
24-7-11 PG
35-7-5 SG
30-7-7 SF
30-10-6 PF

Kobe was not significantly better than Lebron at any category except shooting freethrows more accurately....

Its perfectly fine if you prefer Kobes style more..... but Lebron is a better talent than Kobe was... and a more impactful player upon his teams, he is more of a teamplayer, he squeezes every ounce of talent/skill his supporting cast has (even if they are scrubs)... he makes his teammates better than what Kobe does...

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mutombo was a nice shot blocker but he aint stoping the top 10 centers in NBA
Noone can stop prime Shaq. Old Shaq dominated Howard. Not even a problem.

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