Originally Posted by RedBlackAttack
Except, if you looked at the schedule and the scores of those five games, you would have to surmise that the Browns are no easy out and certainly not "in shambles" as you claim. In fact, despite the record, this is as good as I've felt about the Browns in a long time. This is the youngest team in the league and there is a ton of talent.
I don't think you've watched much of the Browns this year. Shambles? No.
And, the Ravens are a total mess of injuries and aging players. They are about to come crashing down to earth... starting today.
Your whole post is sort of crazy. The Bengals have not looked like the obvious better team in either of the two games.
You're right, I haven't had the opportunity to watch the Browns much this year. I don't have Sunday Ticket. I don't have NFL Network either, so I wasn't able to watch that Browns VS Ravens game a couple of Thursday nights ago.
It seem they made the right decision in going with Trent Richardson @ # 3. He looks like the real deal. His highlights have been more impressive than any other back I've seen with the exception of maybe Lynch or Charles.
I'd be excited about having him on my roster and like you said I'd be excited about having all this up-and-coming young talent too. Cincy is in a similar situation with some very young players who are obviously very talented. The Bengals have proven they can already win and win consistently now. Cleveland isn't there.
All I can do is look at stats, watch highlights, read from experts, analysts and journalists in additional to listening to them, etc. I can't evaluate them and watch them, follow them, etc. as you are. You being a Browns fan and me not, I would expert you know more and your opinion would hold more weight.
Having said that, I've heard some of the experts analysts etc echo your opinion that Cleveland is potentially in a good rebuilding position considering the young and hungry talent they have. I haven't heard much about them being a better team than what they record indicates. None of the experts, analysts etc typically "pick" them to win games, and their predictions usually hold true.
You're right the Ravens did lose today. That was an ugly loss for Baltimore. Their defense did look sluggish and with so many key players out, it really exposed how vulnerable they can be without them. Cleveland lost too though. Now it comes down to Steelers and Bengals, so not entirely a great day for AFC North teams (with the exception of the Cincy who wins tonight
Me saying the Browns were in "shambles" was somewhat immature, sure I'll admit that. Then again, you look at their QB situation, among the league's worst right up there with Kansas City. Holmgren was apparently not their answer to putting a winner together. The writing on the wall says they'll improve and get better. I actually hope they. I know the Bengals and Browns play in the same division, but I've always been a somewhat "undercover" Browns fan, not exactly following them or keeping up with them, but actually pulling for them hoping they could be successful as long as it doesn't derail the Bengals Express.
I'm honestly not trying to be harsh on Cleveland, or say you're wrong and in the minority in thinking the Browns will greatly improve. It does seem as if you're on their bandwagon, and being such a great Cleveland fan, how could anyone blame you for not supporting your team and being on their bandwagon, even though it's nonexistent altogether?