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Old 11-07-2012, 09:04 PM   #871
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I think it will be closer to #2 than #1 as evidence by all I've been reading since last night and this morning. Most think they just weren't hard right enough.

I'm fine with that just for the lulz on election night when it is a bloodbath.
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Old 11-08-2012, 12:21 AM   #872
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Old 11-08-2012, 12:48 AM   #873
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I think either 1) the GOP will learn their lesson that they need a more moderate presidential candidate or 2) they will run a Santorum type and get absolutely slaughtered and then finally learn their lesson. If they run anything close to Santorum in a general election it will be the biggest lopsided race since Reagan.
Moderate how? Mitt Romney was a moderate. Conservatives want smaller government, that means lower taxes and cutting spending. We are Pro-Life, we are proud to protect the rights of the unborn child. We will never change our position on abortion, if we do we will lose more than half of our coalition. The mistake we made was alienating the Latino vote. The tone was too harsh, we have to soften it. If we get 40-45% of their vote we will never lose another election. Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio will be our ticket in 2016. They will win and will save our country from the shambles Obama will leave us in.
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Old 11-08-2012, 12:50 AM   #874
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Old 11-08-2012, 01:12 AM   #875
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Moderate how? Mitt Romney was a moderate. Conservatives want smaller government, that means lower taxes and cutting spending. We are Pro-Life, we are proud to protect the rights of the unborn child. We will never change our position on abortion, if we do we will lose more than half of our coalition. The mistake we made was alienating the Latino vote. The tone was too harsh, we have to soften it. If we get 40-45% of their vote we will never lose another election. Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio will be our ticket in 2016. They will win and will save our country from the shambles Obama will leave us in.

Jeb and Rubio are moderates compared to your overall base. How do you figure they will do better than Romney did. Most of the chatter has been your guys aren't conservative enough. Do you think Jeb and Marco are more conservative than Mitt? Your base opposes any amnesty or path to citizenship still. Two things that Jeb and Rubio are leaning towards. You see that changing in 4 years? Rubio and Jeb aren't culture warriors as well.
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Old 11-08-2012, 01:25 AM   #876
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Moderate how? Mitt Romney was a moderate. Conservatives want smaller government, that means lower taxes and cutting spending. We are Pro-Life, we are proud to protect the rights of the unborn child. We will never change our position on abortion, if we do we will lose more than half of our coalition. The mistake we made was alienating the Latino vote. The tone was too harsh, we have to soften it. If we get 40-45% of their vote we will never lose another election. Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio will be our ticket in 2016. They will win and will save our country from the shambles Obama will leave us in.

Having convictions is good but on divisive issues like abortion then personal convictions can't become national policy. Also economic issues should far out weigh social issues especially when the country is becoming more socially liberal. Conservatives in other countries have realized to form government that social issues need to be on the back burner for economic issues. Maybe it is time for American conservatives to realize that they are on the losing side of the social values debate.
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Old 11-10-2012, 05:55 PM   #877
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4 days late but Florida voted for Obama. So the finals score is 332-206.

He won the popularity vote too.
Candidate Popular vote Percentage
Barack Obama 61713086 51%
Mitt Romney 58510150 48%
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Old 11-11-2012, 05:49 AM   #878
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Some jokes I found around the net
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Obama wins again. Republicans observe one minute of silencer.


The official site: Four more years. It's the current life expectancy of Iranians.


Essential to Obama's success were the young, the workers and the immigrants. They prepared his stage.


Women and immigrants were crucial. No one told Romney that they could actually vote.


Republicans didn't manage to convince the black voters. And they wasted a lot of bananas.


The pic of the hug between Barack and Michelle becomes the most tweeted pic ever. She is taken from behind.


Obama: "I always believed in a generous, compassionate and tolerant America". Then, Columbus came.


Romney was saluted by a lot of whistles. It can happen, when your voters have no teeth.



Romney: "I pray that the President will have success". Way to go, Ahmadinejad!



Cher tweets: "My face is full of tears". Well, you can wear the other one.


Florida vote count is late. For the moment, Al Gore is ahead.
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Old 11-26-2012, 07:13 PM   #879
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Bump for the final tidbit: Romney won 47%. Apparently God has a sense of humor.
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Old 11-27-2012, 02:07 AM   #880
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lmao What kind of bizarro world am I living in? The conservatives need a more moderate candidate? More moderate than Mitt Romney?? WTF. Mitt Romney was a Democrat for Christs sakes.

The problem here is we have a bunch of stupid Americans. Not just stupid, but arrogant control freaks as well. They focus on divisive issues like abortion and gay marriage, when the federal government should have NO SAY on these issues to begin with! Meanwhile, both parties silently agree on everything that matters... spying on citizens, killing innocent citizens, torturing people, molesting us in the airports, undeclared aggressive wars, central banking, unpayable deficits ... all of that is off the table before the debate even begins. While idiot Americans get haughty about free birth control or immigration.

We don't need a radical right wing candidate. What we need is PEOPLE, to be radical about their civil liberties. Stop chanting for Obama while he's actively pushing to take away your freedoms and ordering torture on innocent people.

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Old 11-27-2012, 02:21 AM   #881
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lmao What kind of bizarro world am I living in? The conservatives need a more moderate candidate? More moderate than Mitt Romney?? WTF. Mitt Romney was a Democrat for Christs sakes.

The problem here is we have a bunch of stupid Americans. Not just stupid, but arrogant control freaks as well. They focus on divisive issues like abortion and gay marriage, when the federal government should have NO SAY on these issues to begin with! Meanwhile, both parties silently agree on everything that matters... spying on citizens, killing innocent citizens, torturing people, molesting us in the airports, undeclared aggressive wars, central banking, unpayable deficits ... all of that is off the table before the debate even begins. While idiot Americans get haughty about free birth control or immigration.

We don't need a radical right wing candidate. What we need is PEOPLE, to be radical about their civil liberties. Stop chanting for Obama while he's actively pushing to take away your freedoms and ordering torture on innocent people.
I disagree on some of your views, but I don't disagree on the need for a more involved electorate.

But that's just damn hard for most people. I'm serious. People have their own lives to take care of, they don't have the time to follow policy. I like to think I'm at least somewhat intelligent and I can follow basically absolute dick about the ins and outs of the "fiscal cliff." And I'm a college educated single person with no kids. You want people that've never seen a college campus that're raising 3 kids and just trying to pay the light bill to understand deficit neutrality on a national scale?

I fully understand that it's frustrating, but the VAST majority of people see election results as "whatever, same shit, different day." Because it pretty much is. You can't expect the population as a whole to stand up and say "I'm mad as hell and I'm not gonna take it anymore!" I don't know how to build a real third party, but basically telling the general population that they're stupid clearly isn't going to work.
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I disagree on some of your views, but I don't disagree on the need for a more involved electorate.

But that's just damn hard for most people. I'm serious. People have their own lives to take care of, they don't have the time to follow policy. I like to think I'm at least somewhat intelligent and I can follow basically absolute dick about the ins and outs of the "fiscal cliff." And I'm a college educated single person with no kids. You want people that've never seen a college campus that're raising 3 kids and just trying to pay the light bill to understand deficit neutrality on a national scale?

I fully understand that it's frustrating, but the VAST majority of people see election results as "whatever, same shit, different day." Because it pretty much is. You can't expect the population as a whole to stand up and say "I'm mad as hell and I'm not gonna take it anymore!" I don't know how to build a real third party, but basically telling the general population that they're stupid clearly isn't going to work.

I remember the first time I heard about the Patriot Act, how pissed off and scared I was. I didn't follow politics at all during that time, I didn't identify with any political party, I never watched the news.... but seeing the government pass a law that so blatantly attacked my privacy was terrifying. I knew I didn't like Bush from that moment on, regardless of anything else he did. It was just a snap-reaction, I didn't have to think twice about it, or research anything. Just automatic.. **** that guy.

I admit I have a lot of time to research, because my job allows me to listen to podcasts all day + I am naturally just introverted and I spend a lot of time reading. But regardless, sometimes it's about what's in peoples hearts and souls. If you value freedom and individual rights, you don't need to do much research, you hear about the NDAA and never support Barack Obama again. Much to my surprise/chagrin, those things seem really unimportant to Americans right now. Which wouldn't bother me one bit, if they didn't have the power to elect snake politicians to take those things from me against my will.
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