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Old 11-10-2011, 07:46 PM   #1
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Default Where do you rank Julius Erving in best NBA Finals performers?

After the merger, he carried the Sixers to the NBA Finals.

He lost the Bill Walton who was exceptional that year.

1980-83, in 4 year span he went to the NBA Finals 3 times and won a title.

1977 Finals - against Blazers (star player; B. Walton)
30/7/5/3/1

1980 Finals - against Lakers (star players; Kareem&Magic)
26/7/5/2/2

1982 Finals - against Lakers (star players; Kareem&Magic)
25/8/3/2/1

1983 Finals - against Lakers (star players; Kareem&Magic)
19/9/5/1/3

Combined;
22 games
25.5 ppg / 7.5 rpg / 4.5 apg / 2.0 spg / 1.7 bpg / 2.8 tpg / 52.6% fg / 76.6% ft / 28.64 eff

He gets crticized for not being a NBA player for his first 5 years in all-time ranking but I think he was one of the best NBA Finals performers.

He averaged 30-7-5 at almost 2000s pace, first. Then pushed that Lakers(which team is significantly better then the Sixers) to 6 games. And finally swept the Lakers with Moses Malone.
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Old 11-10-2011, 09:01 PM   #2
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Default The Doctor

Factor in his ABA Finals numbers and it's even crazier. This is what I have. If anyone else can add anything to these lines please do.

1974 Finals vs. Utah Stars

Game One: 47 points 19-29 FG, Nets win 89-85

Game Two: 32 points, Nets win 118-94

Game Three: 24 points, Nets win 103-100

Game Four: 18 points, Nets lose 97-89

Game Five: 20 points, Nets win 111-100

Series Average: 28.2 ppg

1976 Finals vs. Denver Nuggets

Game One: 45 points 12 rebounds 4 assists, 17-24 FG, 11-12 FT (game winning 15-20 footer at the buzzer) Nets win 120-118

Game Two: 48 points 14 rebounds, Nets lose 127-121

Game Three: 31 points 10 rebounds 4 blocks 5 steals (scored eight points, 2 steals and blocked two shots in final 90 secs), Nets win 117-111

Game Four: 34 points 16 rebounds, Nets win 121-112

Game Five: 37 points 14 rebounds, 13-21 FG, 11-15 FT, Nets lose 118-110

Game Six: 31 points 19 rebounds, Nets win 112-106

Series Averages: 37.7 ppg 14.2 rpg
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Old 11-11-2011, 08:59 AM   #3
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I have his ABA Finals stats as well. I'm not on my lap top though. I'll post them later.

Btw, i have him at Finals:26.8 points, 8.4 rebounds, 4.5 assists, 2.6 steals , 52.6% field goal percent with one ABA finals MVP counted. I'll need to calculate the rest too

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Old 11-11-2011, 09:26 AM   #4
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Default Re: Where do you rank Julius Erving in best NBA Finals performers?

Is he a better Finals performer than Kobe?
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Old 11-11-2011, 09:49 AM   #5
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Default Re: Where do you rank Julius Erving in best NBA Finals performers?

I always find it funny out the Media always Over Look Dr.J
To Me I Rank him up there with Jordan,Bird,&Magic
The Nba and ABA thing was Like the AFL and the NFL
The Nba had the Money and Power But the I think the ABA had Better Players(Raw Talent) who's the Say if the NBA Champs had went up against the Aba Champs the Aba Wouldn't won??
Just Like how the NFL said the AFL weren't on their Level Then The Jets Proved them Wrong!!
D.J is a top 10 Player!!!!he revolutionize the Game of Basketball!!

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Old 11-11-2011, 11:07 AM   #6
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Default Re: Where do you rank Julius Erving in best NBA Finals performers?

1976 ABA Finals was Dr. J best. It was memorable because he and David Thompson was waging a scoring duel througout the series. I did saw Bobby Jones who was a premier defender in his heyday in both leagues and Doctor just tore him up. Dr. J really thrived in the ABA free flowing style.
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Old 11-11-2011, 12:10 PM   #7
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Default Re: Where do you rank Julius Erving in best NBA Finals performers?

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Is he a better Finals performer than Kobe?
Obviously. Kobe is the opposite of Wade and Jordan when playing in the Finals.
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Old 11-11-2011, 12:32 PM   #8
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Julius Erving 76 ABA Finals



Game 1: 45 points, 12 rebounds, 4 assists, 17-25 FG, 11-11 FT


Game 2: 48 points, 14 rebounds, 4 assists, 17-26 FG, 12-16 FT


Game 3: 31 points, 10 rebounds, 4 assists, 11-23 FG, 9-11 FT


Game 4:34 points, 15 rebounds, 6 assists, 11-20 FG, 12-15 FT


Game 5:37 points, 15 rebounds, 5 assists, 13-21 FG, 11-15 FT


Game 6:31 points, 19 rebounds, 5 assists, 10-19 FG, 11-16 FT


226 points (37.6), 85 boards (14.2), 27 assists (4.7), 13 steals (2.6), 11 blocks (2.2)

In 6 games!


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74 ABA Finals


Game 1: 47 points, 10 rebounds, 3 assists, 19-29 FG, 9-10 FT


Game 2: 32 points, 9 rebounds, 4 assists, 12-21 FG, 8-10 FT


Game 3:24 points, 13 rebounds, 7 assists, 9-22 FG


Game 4:18 points, 9 rebounds, 7 assists, 9-22 FG


Game 5:20 points, 16 rebounds, 4 assists, 9-19 FG, 1-1 FT


Series Averages:141 points (28.2), 57 boards (11.4), 25 assists (5.0), 58/113 FG (51.3)
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Old 11-11-2011, 03:37 PM   #9
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Default Re: Where do you rank Julius Erving in best NBA Finals performers?

How much do you value ABA when considering Doctor J's career?
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Old 11-11-2011, 03:40 PM   #10
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Default Re: Where do you rank Julius Erving in best NBA Finals performers?

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How much do you value ABA when considering Doctor J's career?
It holds more value than his NBA career, obviously.
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Old 11-11-2011, 05:12 PM   #11
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1976 Finals vs. Denver Nuggets

Game One: 45 points 12 rebounds 4 assists, 17-24 FG, 11-12 FT (game winning 15-20 footer at the buzzer) Nets win 120-118

Game Two: 48 points 14 rebounds, Nets lose 127-121

Game Three: 31 points 10 rebounds 4 blocks 5 steals (scored eight points, 2 steals and blocked two shots in final 90 secs), Nets win 117-111

Game Four: 34 points 16 rebounds, Nets win 121-112

Game Five: 37 points 14 rebounds, 13-21 FG, 11-15 FT, Nets lose 118-110

Game Six: 31 points 19 rebounds, Nets win 112-106

Series Averages: 37.7 ppg 14.2 rpg
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Old 11-11-2011, 05:25 PM   #12
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Default Re: Where do you rank Julius Erving in best NBA Finals performers?

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How much do you value ABA when considering Doctor J's career?

Doc's three best seasons came in years when the ABA's best teams were as good or better than the NBA's. Doc was sold to the 76ers before the merger, but the Nuggets won 50 games and the Spurs 44 in their first NBA season and that was with the NBA teams all getting stronger by dividing the remaining ABA players among themselves. In the NBA finals in 1977 4 of the 10 starters were former ABA guys. In fact 4 of the 10 all-NBA players, 4 of 10 all-NBA picks and 11 of 26 all-stars all had ABA roots in 1977.
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Old 11-11-2011, 05:29 PM   #13
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Default Re: Where do you rank Julius Erving in best NBA Finals performers?

I had to rep Odinn & Streetballer.

Odinn for making the thread schooling peeps about Dr. J and Streetballer for telling it like I truly believe it is and that's the ABA had superior talent, the NBA just had the name and more history behind it at the time, that's all.

Dr. J's skills transcend time and he'd be great nowadays.

On topic:
It'd be hard to find anyone not named:

Jordan, Shaq, Hakeem, Bird, and Tim Duncan that played better than him in the Finals CONSIDERING how many times he reached the Finals.
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Old 11-11-2011, 06:46 PM   #14
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What's the problem?
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Old 11-11-2011, 06:47 PM   #15
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How much do you value ABA when considering Doctor J's career?

A lot. Although he had good teams, still, he was the #1 option on those teams and he led them to two titles while performing pretty well. His 76 is one of the most notable considering he went up against Bobby Jones (at worst top 15 in defender ever).
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