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Old 01-29-2007, 10:58 PM   #16
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Default Re: if you switched garnett with dirk or duncan, woud either team improve?

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garnett isn't capable of leading a team in the 4th like dirk. otherwise they are prety much the same and dirk is quickly closing the gap on defense while remaining light years better than garnett offensively
woah woah woah. Dirk has gotten better defensively but i honestly think kg should win dpoy this year. Dirk still isnt that close to him defensively.
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Old 01-29-2007, 11:07 PM   #17
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Default Re: if you switched garnett with dirk or duncan, woud either team improve?

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woah woah woah. Dirk has gotten better defensively but i honestly think kg should win dpoy this year. Dirk still isnt that close to him defensively.

thats why i said 'closing the gap'. that means at one point there was a big difference and now it's getting smaller and smaller.
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Old 01-29-2007, 11:11 PM   #18
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thats why i said 'closing the gap'. that means at one point there was a big difference and now it's getting smaller and smaller.

If he feels KG is the DPOY this season how the phuck does that mean Dirk is closing the gap? I'd like to assume that when someone claims a player is DPOY in thier eyes that a player isnt closing the gap and the big difference hasnt been made into a small one.

Smarten up joewait, all that studying has your brain near "fried". Dirk will never come close to winning a DPOY. But some way, some how he is closing the defensive gap. Ok gotcha. What else can Dirk do? Pass like Nash...wait he's closing the gap. Used to be a big difference and now its getting smaller and smaller.
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Old 01-29-2007, 11:13 PM   #19
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Default Re: if you switched garnett with dirk or duncan, woud either team improve?

I think hes closing the gap on duncan because i think duncan has gotten worse. Hes not closing the gap on garnett because this is garnetts best year defensively imo. He even said himself hes been more energetic on that end. Honestly if anything the gap between those two got wider this year. I love dirk, thats fairly obvious but bringing up defense in an argument about him and kg is a bad idea for the dirk perspective.
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Old 01-29-2007, 11:26 PM   #20
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Default Re: if you switched garnett with dirk or duncan, woud either team improve?

I'm a defensive guy so I like what happens to the Mavs with KG. Definitely championship caliber. Not saying KG is better but he's more my taste in a player especially a PF. Of course Dallas or any team gets better with Duncan unless they have another HOF big man already. I do like KG with the Mavs lineup more and it's harder to picture Duncan somewhere else besides SA.

Oh forgot to add I think either team Dirk goes to woud have to adjust their rosters and styles to fit Dirk moreso because their PF becomes a perimeter player.

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Old 01-29-2007, 11:30 PM   #21
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Default Re: if you switched garnett with dirk or duncan, woud either team improve?

honestly i think the mavs would get worse with duncan than they would with dirk. That said i also think the spurs would get worse with dirk than with duncan. Both teams are built around the players they already have.
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Old 01-30-2007, 12:52 AM   #22
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I think Garnett would fit well in Dallas and SA's systems because of their focus on defense.
Minnesota's been a more defensive-oriented team since Casey was first hired. This season, the Wolves have been very good defensively.
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Old 01-30-2007, 12:53 AM   #23
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Default Re: if you switched garnett with dirk or duncan, woud either team improve?

You have to consider that these teams are built around these players. Changing the foundation of the team means the coaches would have to adjust gameplans completely. It'd be way different than just the difference between the players.
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Old 01-30-2007, 01:38 AM   #24
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honestly i think the mavs would get worse with duncan than they would with dirk. That said i also think the spurs would get worse with dirk than with duncan. Both teams are built around the players they already have.

I can certainly agree with that. Dirk/Oberto patrolling the paint? I don't think so. However, Dirk/KG, considering they both have extremely good midrange games, would be a much tougher decision.
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You have to consider that these teams are built around these players. Changing the foundation of the team means the coaches would have to adjust gameplans completely. It'd be way different than just the difference between the players.

The Wolves were built by a drunk Irishman.
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the mavs get worse. They would struggle to score.

I agree.
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Old 01-30-2007, 10:57 AM   #27
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The Wolves were built by a drunk Irishman.
While a nice joke, your post doesn't change the truth of my analysis.
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honestly i think the mavs would get worse with duncan than they would with dirk. That said i also think the spurs would get worse with dirk than with duncan. Both teams are built around the players they already have.

I disagree, I think Dallas would actually level out because Duncan would be the post defender they could really rely on. I also think that Duncan would make those around him shoot more and get better there. That being said, Duncan wouldn't fit well into the offensive scheme, I doubt they'd win a championship, unless they change something..... like the offensive scheme.
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Default Re: if you switched garnett with dirk or duncan, woud either team improve?

put kg on the spurs and it's downgrade because they need him to play too much center / deep post. put him on the mavs and he helps immensely at the defensive end but hurts them offensively. not because dirk is lightyears better than him but because neither dampier not diop can step out and shoot the way blount and nesterovic and griffin do / did, and that limits garnett's post ability and offensive rebounding when the centers clog his space on offense.
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Default Re: if you switched garnett with dirk or duncan, woud either team improve?

simple answet to the question.......YES, both teams would be better. when has garnett had players like parker and josh howard and jason terry, jerry stackhouse, devin harris, heck, a defensive center like dampier, ginobili, etc, etc...
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