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Old 11-06-2012, 02:14 PM   #1
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Default Harden Wanted More Time To Consider Final Offer From Thunder

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Reflecting back on his trade from the Oklahoma City Thunder, James Harden is disappointed that his former team's front office only gave him one hour to consider their final offer of a four-year, $54 million contract.

"After everything we established everything we had done you give me an hour?" Harden told Yahoo! Sports on Monday afternoon. "This was one of the biggest decisions of my life. I wanted to go home and pray about it. It hurt me. It hurt."

Harden is unsure if extra time would have led him to accepting the offer rather than end up traded to the Houston Rockets.

"Who knows? Another day, who knows what another day would've done?"

The Rockets had been pushing to complete the trade by Friday, but the Thunder wanted to present a final offer to Harden with a 60-minute window.

"I think they valued my talent there," Harden said. "They built me there: my work ethic, my body. They changed my life. I think they know how good I can be."

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Old 11-06-2012, 02:16 PM   #2
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Sam Presti exposed.
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Old 11-06-2012, 02:17 PM   #3
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The Harden trade will haunt the Thunder front office for a couple years if not more. They really blew it when they didn't find a way to keep him in OKC
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Old 11-06-2012, 04:07 PM   #4
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You get 20 minutes to decide whether or not you want the lungs offered for a double lung transplant which could either end or save your life.

And that decision can be presented at any time, day or night.
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Old 11-06-2012, 04:08 PM   #5
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if harden can even manage 20 ppg on 43% presti will be exposed as a terrible GM
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Old 11-06-2012, 04:10 PM   #6
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The Harden trade will haunt the Thunder front office for a couple years if not more. They really blew it when they didn't find a way to keep him in OKC
Yes, it will. To me, losing Harden no longer makes them frightening.

I hope Harden makes them pay, too and continues his growth to becoming a superstar.

His ceiling is higher than Westrbook, it could be a blessing in disguise. No longer destined for the Manu Ginobili role. He can create an actual legacy.
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Old 11-06-2012, 04:18 PM   #7
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The NBA and it's teams are a business, as well.

Harden should obviously have some emotion about it, but he should have known better. You can get moved at any time if you aren't that proven. Sure there's potential, but it doesn't come before the team and they knew they couldn't be locked up with too much money.

Anyways, it works well for both sides if the Thunder draft smartly for the future.

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Old 11-06-2012, 04:27 PM   #8
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Sam Presti exposed.
Exposed for what? It's a negotiation. Presti is exposed for being a shrewd businessman. What's wrong with that? Why is it that when players want to play hardball it's no big deal but when GMs do al of a sudden it's a problem? What Presti did is let it be known that he has a plan and if you're not willing to go along with the plan then he'll find someone else who can. They don't owe Harden anything nor does Harden owe them anything. They are the ones who had faith in him and drafted him and developed him. He did his part in believing in their system and doing the work. Presti didn't make this offer take it or leave it as his first offer so it shouldn't have been any sort of surprise. Is he better than KD or Westbrook? Most people would say no. As any NBA fan knows, a teams fate/success can change rapidly with a freak injury or a number of other circumstances. Presti didn't want to commit to a max deal w/Harden and possibly compromise the team's future. You can't have everything all the time and you have to maintain some flexibility long term. This is the reality of the NBA now. Harden is $80 million richer. No need to go home and pray about that.
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Old 11-06-2012, 04:32 PM   #9
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I think Presti should stick to drafting he doesn't seem to be a savvy trader.
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Old 11-06-2012, 04:35 PM   #10
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The Thunder's part of this trade can't truly be evaluated until two things happen, A) the Toronto pick they recieved in the trade is made, and B) Lamb has time to develop.

I still don't like the trade for OKC, but if Lamb becomes what Harden was for them, and that Toronto pick turns into a solid C then who is to say that it wasn't a great trade for both teams.

For Harden i'm sure it sucks being shipped from a contender to a first round exit at best, but that extra 26 million dollars should help heal him, and possibly his first of many all star appearances.
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Old 11-06-2012, 04:40 PM   #11
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Don't want to hear small market teams complain anymore that "Lebron James won't ever go sign with..."


THIS IS THE REASON WHY!!! OKC had a 23 year old Olympian that hadn't even hit his prime, and they traded him away. Miami, LA, NY, Chicago, etc would never trade away a core player for luxury tax reasons.
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Old 11-06-2012, 04:44 PM   #12
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Don't want to hear small market teams complain anymore that "Lebron James won't ever go sign with..."


THIS IS THE REASON WHY!!! OKC had a 23 year old Olympian that hadn't even hit his prime, and they traded him away. Miami, LA, NY, Chicago, etc would never trade away a core player for luxury tax reasons.

Chicago and NY? Really? It's funny that you mention those teams since Harden has teammates who were considered part of those teams cores just last year.
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Old 11-06-2012, 04:44 PM   #13
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Exposed for what? It's a negotiation. Presti is exposed for being a shrewd businessman. What's wrong with that? Why is it that when players want to play hardball it's no big deal but when GMs do al of a sudden it's a problem? What Presti did is let it be known that he has a plan and if you're not willing to go along with the plan then he'll find someone else who can. They don't owe Harden anything nor does Harden owe them anything. They are the ones who had faith in him and drafted him and developed him. He did his part in believing in their system and doing the work. Presti didn't make this offer take it or leave it as his first offer so it shouldn't have been any sort of surprise. Is he better than KD or Westbrook? Most people would say no. As any NBA fan knows, a teams fate/success can change rapidly with a freak injury or a number of other circumstances. Presti didn't want to commit to a max deal w/Harden and possibly compromise the team's future. You can't have everything all the time and you have to maintain some flexibility long term. This is the reality of the NBA now. Harden is $80 million richer. No need to go home and pray about that.

In business dealings, even after all terms are worked out, it is not unusual for a day or several days to pass before one party makes its final decision to the final offer. From working in business, I can honestly tell you I have never seen a "one hour window" because not only is that pushy, it's bad form and goes against good-faith negotiations. It would be considered absolutely unprofessional and unbecoming where I work.
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Old 11-06-2012, 04:47 PM   #14
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Chicago and NY? Really? It's funny that you mention those teams since Harden has teammates who were considered part of those teams cores just last year.

NY has never been cheap. Part of the Lin decision had to do with him going behind Dolan's back. Plus the sample size on Lin was too small to make a decision like that. It's not like he had a stat book like Harden's. Chicago is cheap, but I don't really think Asik was considered a part of their core. I am pretty sure they would have matched Harden though.
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Exposed for what? It's a negotiation. Presti is exposed for being a shrewd businessman. What's wrong with that? Why is it that when players want to play hardball it's no big deal but when GMs do al of a sudden it's a problem?

Not sure what world you live in, but GMs rarely get anywhere near the blame that players do.
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