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Old 11-08-2012, 04:42 PM   #151
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**** HER for EXPECTING us to pay for her shit.

Yes, the fortunate are expected to help/pay for the unfortunate. The poor like anyone else would rather be self sufficient then live off the government.
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Old 11-08-2012, 04:42 PM   #152
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Tea Partiers worried about welfare checks but not the trillions we spend on wars. So easily manipulated by the GOP machinery.
How about the fact that we actually got a look at a high 1-percenters federal income tax returns and he didn't pay the 35% top marginal tax rate or even half of that rate, which is at one of its lowest points in modern American history.

His 14% federal income tax rate doesn't exactly jive with the narrative that "job creators are being strangled to death under Obama." I wonder how often that was brought up on the Hannity show?
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Old 11-08-2012, 04:43 PM   #153
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People are too enamored with the dichotomy of overspending or cutting spending, and how a shift in that metric produces a direct positive or negative correlation. We could actually cut overall military spending and actually strengthen the military's reach, projection, and capabilities.
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Old 11-08-2012, 04:44 PM   #154
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It's better to have a country than to just help the poor.
The massive defense spending which began under Reagan in an effort to win the Cold War was never meant to be permanent. It has come to a point of being absolutely outlandish and there is no reason for it, especially when you're likely also railing about the deficit.
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Old 11-08-2012, 04:45 PM   #155
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How about the fact that we actually got a look at a high 1-percenters federal income tax returns and he didn't pay the 35% top marginal tax rate or even half of that rate, which is at one of its lowest points in modern American history.

His 14% federal income tax rate doesn't exactly jive with the narrative that "job creators are being strangled to death under Obama." I wonder how often that was brought up on the Hannity show?


This. Just raising the rates will hurt the middle and upper middle class but not the rich unless the tax code is truly reformed.
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Old 11-08-2012, 04:46 PM   #156
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We could actually cut overall military spending and actually strengthen the military's reach, projection, and capabilities.
NOOO WE NED MOAR TANKS IN CASE OF LAND WAR IN RUSSIAA WAAAGARRRBLLLLLLL
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Old 11-08-2012, 04:48 PM   #157
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Props, that made me LOL.
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Old 11-08-2012, 04:49 PM   #158
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Yeah, we'd be totally screwed if we cut military spending any to help out people feed their children.


I don't think any of those countries is as hated in the middle east as America is.
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Old 11-08-2012, 04:50 PM   #159
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Yes, the fortunate are expected to help/pay for the unfortunate. The poor like anyone else would rather be self sufficient then live off the government.

So why should we have to pay for them then. Get a job if you want to be self sufficient. But the sad truth is that most people would rather get free stuff than actually work.
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Old 11-08-2012, 04:51 PM   #160
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How about the fact that we actually got a look at a high 1-percenters federal income tax returns and he didn't pay the 35% top marginal tax rate or even half of that rate, which is at one of its lowest points in modern American history.

His 14% federal income tax rate doesn't exactly jive with the narrative that "job creators are being strangled to death under Obama." I wonder how often that was brought up on the Hannity show?

Capital gains?
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Old 11-08-2012, 04:51 PM   #161
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This. Just raising the rates will hurt the middle and upper middle class but not the rich unless the tax code is truly reformed.
Do away with capital gains, do something about offshore accounts and hidden shell companies overseas, and allow the Bush tax cuts to expire and we will have taken some real steps toward the kind of fiscal responsibility that the right has been preaching this election cycle.

We'll see if any of the three happen.
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Old 11-08-2012, 04:52 PM   #162
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Capital gains?
Yes. A ridiculous loophole that should be done away with.
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Old 11-08-2012, 04:56 PM   #163
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I don't think any of those countries is as hated in the middle east as America is.
I don't see Iran or Afghanistan on that chart... how big is their military budget?
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You don't want to entirely do away with the preferential capital gains tax, but raising it to a point wouldn't hurt enact a prohibitive barrier to investment.
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Old 11-08-2012, 04:58 PM   #165
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Yes. A ridiculous loophole that should be done away with.

What do you propose he should do then? Pay alot of extra money in taxes?
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