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Old 11-08-2012, 01:05 PM   #106
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Conservatives were at a disadvantage because Romney supporters like Jennifer Rubin and Hugh Hewitt saw it as their duty to spin constantly for their favored candidate rather than being frank about his strengths and weaknesses. What conservative Washington Post readers got, when they traded in Dave Weigel for Rubin, was a lot more hackery and a lot less informed about the presidential election. *

Conservatives were at an information disadvantage because so many right-leaning outlets wasted time on stories the rest of America dismissed as nonsense. WorldNetDaily brought you birtherism. Forbes brought you Kenyan anti-colonialism. National Review obsessed about an imaginary rejection of American exceptionalism, misrepresenting an Obama quote in the process, and Andy McCarthy was interviewed widely about his theory that Obama, aka the Drone Warrior in Chief, allied himself with our Islamist enemies in a "Grand Jihad" against America. Seriously?*

Conservatives were at a disadvantage because their information elites pandered in the most cynical, self-defeating ways, treating would-be candidates like Sarah Palin and Herman Cain as if they were plausible presidents rather than national jokes who'd lose worse than George McGovern.

How many months were wasted on them?

How many hours of Glenn Beck conspiracy theories did Fox News broadcast to its viewers? How many hours of transparently mindless Sean Hannity content is still broadcast daily? Why don't Americans trust Republicans on foreign policy as they once did? In part because conservatism hasn't grappled with the foreign-policy failures of George W. Bush. A conspiracy of silence surrounds the subject. Romney could neither run on the man's record nor repudiate it. The most damaging Romney gaffe of the campaign, where he talked about how the 47 percent of Americans who pay no income taxes are a lost cause for Republicans? Either he was unaware that many of those people are Republican voters, or was pandering to GOP donors who are misinformed. Either way, bad information within the conservative movement was to blame.

In conservative fantasy-land, Richard Nixon was a champion of ideological conservatism, tax cuts are the only way to raise revenue, adding neoconservatives to a foreign-policy team reassures American voters, Benghazi was a winning campaign issue, Clint Eastwood's convention speech was a brilliant triumph, and Obama's America is a place where black kids can beat up white kids with impunity. Most conservative pundits know better than this nonsense -- not that they speak up against it. They see criticizing their own side as a sign of disloyalty. I see a coalition that has lost all perspective, partly because there's no cost to broadcasting or publishing inane bullshit. In fact, it's often very profitable. A lot of cynical people have gotten rich broadcasting and publishing red meat for movement conservative consumption.

On the biggest political story of the year, the conservative media just got its ass handed to it by the mainstream media. And movement conservatives, who believe the MSM is more biased and less rigorous than their alternatives, have no way to explain how their trusted outlets got it wrong, while the New York Times got it right. Hint: The Times hired the most rigorous forecaster it could find. *

It ought to be an eye-opening moment.* *

But I expect that it'll be quickly forgotten, that none of the conservatives who touted a polling conspiracy will be discredited, and that the right will continue to operate at an information disadvantage. After all, it's not like they'll trust the analysis of a non-conservative like me more than the numerous fellow conservatives who constantly tell them things that turn out not to be true.

http://m.theatlantic.com/politics/ar...d-file/264855/
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Old 11-08-2012, 01:06 PM   #107
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There's usually hate for other presidents, but it doesn't ever seem so over the top as it does with Obama. I don't know. Is it cause he's black or does it just seem more over the top due to social media? Combination of both? Either way, its unprecedented.


black is definitely a factor but the right wing including a lot of Independents have been screaming doom and gloom end of the world for a long time now where it just gets worse and worse each year. hell if you read older ISH political posts you'll see the same people saying the same things years and years ago of how we're fukked. just so many loonies in this world screaming and exaggerating everything
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Old 11-08-2012, 01:14 PM   #108
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black is definitely a factor but the right wing including a lot of Independents have been screaming doom and gloom end of the world for a long time now where it just gets worse and worse each year. hell if you read older ISH political posts you'll see the same people saying the same things years and years ago of how we're fukked. just so many loonies in this world screaming and exaggerating everything






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Old 11-08-2012, 01:22 PM   #109
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you really want to troll battle with me?

i mean i can always go back to calling you a woman in every post, call you out for how you front being in the middle but are very right wing in every political post you make, or just make fun of you in general derailinig every post you make here. and it wouldn't be like i started the war either....

like i constantly say here, i don't know why some of the weakest posters here always want to start beefs with me when i'm minding my own business

and i won't even get into how retarded some of the political posts you make here are...lol @ government running the auto industry :

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Old 11-08-2012, 01:24 PM   #110
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you really want to troll battle with me?

i mean i can always go back to calling you a woman in every post, call you out for how you front being in the middle but are very right wing in every political post you make, or just make fun of you in general derailinig every post you make here. and it wouldn't be like i started the war either....

like i constantly say here, i don't know why some of the weakest posters here always want to start beefs with me when i'm minding my own business




You have no self-deprecating humor do you? Maybe a little dose of it might make you slightly more likable.
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Old 11-08-2012, 01:25 PM   #111
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You have no self-deprecating humor do you? Maybe a little dose of it might make you slightly more likable.


well just keep that rationale in mind when i clown you back, k?

btw i could care less if u like me or not, its not the reason i post here like a lot of you desperate for friends it seems.

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Old 11-08-2012, 01:29 PM   #112
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well just keep that rationale in mind when i clown you back, k?

btw i could care less if u like me or not, its not the reason i post here like a lot of you desperate for friends it seems.


Oh no problem. I don't take myself seriously IRL much less on ISH.
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Old 11-08-2012, 01:31 PM   #113
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you really want to troll battle with me?

i mean i can always go back to calling you a woman in every post, call you out for how you front being in the middle but are very right wing in every political post you make, or just make fun of you in general derailinig every post you make here. and it wouldn't be like i started the war either....

like i constantly say here, i don't know why some of the weakest posters here always want to start beefs with me when i'm minding my own business

and i won't even get into how retarded some of the political posts you make here are...lol @ government running the auto industry :


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Old 11-08-2012, 01:35 PM   #114
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Oh no problem. I don't take myself seriously IRL much less on ISH.


even tho i don't believe that for a minute since its not like we haven't beefed before, at least i know you're okay with however i decide to troll u
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Not worth the effort.


As to the OP: In elections past there was butthurt with the losers, but that dissipated over time. But nowadays with Fox News and MSNBC among others, the butthurt inertia keeps being perpetuated. It's ridiculous. Bitch and moan if you want to but then get over it. It doesn't do anyone any good to keep fanning the flames.

It'll be interesting to see where we are as a nation in 4 years. Legalizing weed and gay marriage are steps in the right direction imo. The Democrats definitely got on the right side of those issues. Fiscally I'm hoping for the best but fearing things will get worse.
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Old 11-08-2012, 01:40 PM   #116
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Old 11-08-2012, 01:44 PM   #117
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Not worth the effort.


As to the OP: In elections past there was butthurt with the losers, but that dissipated over time. But nowadays with Fox News and MSNBC among others, the butthurt inertia keeps being perpetuated. It's ridiculous. Bitch and moan if you want to but then get over it. It doesn't do anyone any good to keep fanning the flames.

It'll be interesting to see where we are as a nation in 4 years. Legalizing weed and gay marriage are steps in the right direction imo. The Democrats definitely got on the right side of those issues. Fiscally I'm hoping for the best but fearing things will get worse.


this is like a Romney post after the first debate. come across as moderate so you can counter the right wing rep/accusation...

i wonder where that thought was before now
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Old 11-08-2012, 01:53 PM   #118
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You know I anticipated that reply, but then I thought...."N'ah not even Rufus would give me that old silliness."

Anyhow you know what to do. Go down to your local American car dealership and "Sh*t on their lawn!"

He's right to a degree. Of course government isn't "running" (like CEO running) but they bailed out the auto industry and the banks and pass bills that force corporations to do certain things or get fined.

To an extent, that's running the company.
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Old 11-08-2012, 02:08 PM   #119
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He's right to a degree. Of course government isn't "running" (like CEO running) but they bailed out the auto industry and the banks and pass bills that force corporations to do certain things or get fined.

To an extent, that's running the company.


no its more like investing which is what it was, since we're making money on it. running would be like a CEO making those day to day decisions. the term 'running' is only used to exaggerate our stake in it for obvious agendas some people have.
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Old 11-08-2012, 02:13 PM   #120
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He's right to a degree. Of course government isn't "running" (like CEO running) but they bailed out the auto industry and the banks and pass bills that force corporations to do certain things or get fined.

To an extent, that's running the company.


My post was tongue-in-cheek to a degree but this is the gist of it. It's government financing and steering a private enterprise, for better or worse.
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