And I got to say I'm less sympathetic to their cause than I was at the beginning. If they are marginalized I can kind of see why.
I believe racially based militia groups probably should be marginalized
maybe point me to articles that paint them in a better light?
The purpose of asking you to read up on them is not to inspire sympathy to their cause. It was for you to ask yourself why the Panthers were basically condemned as threats to national security, while the KKK weren't considered threats for their own actions against minorities and allowed to march out in the open, unopposed by the same law enforcement agencies that branded the Panthers as outlaws.
The difference between the two groups is that the KKK are a white supremist group known historically for race hate crimes. The Panthers, regardless of whether you support their cause or agree with their methodology, were formed as a response to those hate crimes and for the progression of blacks and minorities in a segregated society where they were deemed inferior and treated as subhuman in many cases. Law enforcement officers were killed expressly because as far as the Panthers were concerned, they were part of the oppressive system and used their police powers to violate the rights of minorities.
Now saying that, some of their ideals were wayyyyy off the beaten path like the demands you highlighted. I'm not saying they were justified in their methods, but historically true social revolution often came from militant action. I'd tend to go more with Martin Luther Kings approach, as his philosophy was not only about the advancement of minorities but all in all a society of equal opportunity where color had no significance.
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The purpose of asking you to read up on them is not to inspire sympathy to their cause. It was for you to ask yourself why the Panthers were basically condemned as threats to national security, while the KKK weren't considered threats for their own actions against minorities and allowed to march out in the open, unopposed by the same law enforcement agencies that branded the Panthers as outlaws.
The difference between the two groups is that the KKK are a white supremist group known historically for race hate crimes. The Panthers, regardless of whether you support their cause or agree with their methodology, were formed as a response to those hate crimes and for the progression of blacks and minorities in a segregated society where they were deemed inferior and treated as subhuman in many cases. Law enforcement officers were killed expressly because as far as the Panthers were concerned, they were part of the oppressive system and used their police powers to violate the rights of minorities.
Now saying that, some of their ideals were wayyyyy off the beaten path like the demands you highlighted. I'm not saying they were justified in their methods, but historically true social revolution often came from militant action. I'd tend to go more with Martin Luther Kings approach, as his philosophy was not only about the advancement of minorities but all in all a society of equal opportunity where color had no significance.
Another thing about the panthers that is important is the fact that their hardline militant stance came when they began promoting that black folks know their rights (mostly gun rights, and their rights when it comes to interaction with the police).. This is where you start seeing cops going down when dealing with them..
Panthers were like today's americans who tote guns like its going out of style.. It would be like the tea party, but young black men instead.
The New Black Panther Party (NBPP), whose formal name is the New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense, is a U.S.-based black political organization founded in Dallas, Texas in 1989. Despite its name, NBPP is not an official successor to the Black Panther Party.[1] Members of the original Black Panther Party have insisted that the newer party is illegitimate and have firmly declared that "there is no new Black Panther Party".[1]
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As guardian of the true history of the Black Panther Party, the Dr. Huey P. Newton Foundation, which includes former leading members of the Party, denounces this group's exploitation of the Party's name and history. Failing to find its own legitimacy in the black community, this band would graft the Party's name upon itself, which we condemn... [T]hey denigrate the Party's name by promoting concepts absolutely counter to the revolutionary principles on which the Party was founded... The Black Panthers were never a group of angry young militants full of fury toward the "white establishment." The Party operated on love for black people, not hatred of white people.[42]
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I actually found quite a bit of racism with Obama's supporters as well. I even saw a few saying if Romney was elected, they were going to go out and murder the first white person they see. So no side is really innocent.
I don't support Obama or Romney, but all this was completely messed up.
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I actually found quite a bit of racism with Obama's supporters as well. I even saw a few saying if Romney was elected, they were going to go out and murder the first white person they see. So no side is really innocent.
Of course, there's good and bad on both sides. My problem is when people attribute certain characteristics to a particular race, which cuts to the heart of racism.
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As far as the KKK/Black Panther stuff goes, in all honesty, for all the shit white people have done to black people throughout the history of this country I can't even get mad if some black dudes felt resentment and wanted to harm white people.
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As far as the KKK/Black Panther stuff goes, in all honesty, for all the shit white people have done to black people throughout the history of this country I can't even get mad if some black dudes felt resentment and wanted to harm white people.
So we should just let blacks disregard the law when they break the law against white people?
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So we should just let blacks disregard the law when they break the law against white people?
Didn't say they should break the law. I said I can't blame them for harboring a hostile mentality. I mean, I hate to use the phrase "live in two different worlds" but that's what it's been like for black and white people (now it's poor and rich people). To white people, if racism isn't blatantly obvious like colored signs, shackles and water hoses then it doesn't exist. That's why it's funny to me when white people are all shocked at some of the racist reactions to Obama's reelection or just racist stuff in general that goes on in this country.
I do have a question for the white members of ISH though, do you all feel "embarrassed for white people" when stuff like this happens? Like just when you think it's getting better shit like this keeps showing up?
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