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Old 03-22-2013, 05:38 PM   #1291
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A-10 doing work, I had Temple as the only A-10 team getting through. Probably because that MWC is so good...oh wait...
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Old 03-22-2013, 06:06 PM   #1292
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It's hard to spin it any other way than them being overrated. The MWC was #2 in conference RPI but they're 1-5 in the tournament so far.
How about going 87-26 vs. teams outside of the conference and having the #1 conference RPI despite having the 3rd best win percentage against other conferences (implying tougher out-of-conference competition)? They're not overrated. They've just struggled in the tourney.
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Old 03-22-2013, 06:07 PM   #1293
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Holy Christ. That's exactly what you're taught to do.

It's amazing that college basketball, which has been premitted to get more and more physical over the years, is going to enforce this ridiculous i nterpretation of a rule.

Yesterday, and I can't recall which game, a guy was driving the lane when a defender basically dove into his extended arm/elbow. Absurd.

That was in the Pitt game. The flagrant rule has been consistently awful all tournament.
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Old 03-22-2013, 06:09 PM   #1294
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colorado making a game of this

this booker kid is launchin them 3s
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Old 03-22-2013, 06:22 PM   #1295
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How about going 87-26 vs. teams outside of the conference and having the #1 conference RPI despite having the 3rd best win percentage against other conferences (implying tougher out-of-conference competition)? They're not overrated. They've just struggled in the tourney.
I'm sorry, but a 1-5 tournament record (continuing to make their conference tournament record awful, especially against teams from the "Power 6" conferences) is more than struggling. That's not holding up your end of the bargain for getting favorable seeds due to a high conference RPI.

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Old 03-22-2013, 06:27 PM   #1296
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How about going 87-26 vs. teams outside of the conference and having the #1 conference RPI despite having the 3rd best win percentage against other conferences (implying tougher out-of-conference competition)? They're not overrated. They've just struggled in the tourney.

87-26 against which teams? Of the 5 bids, only 2 wins were against ranked team (UCLA early when they were losing to Cal Poly at home and @Creighton).

The reason why the conference had the #1 RPI (which is a imperfect system) is because their teams manged to play a bunch of bad teams that weren't terrible in the OOC. As the RPI calculates by your record, your opponent's records, and their opponent's records.

So you can cheat the system by playing those 75-150 ranked teams and end up with a very high RPI. Which is what happened this year in the Mountain West, although I'm sure coincidentally as you can't really predict how your opponent's season will go.
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Old 03-22-2013, 06:28 PM   #1297
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I'm sorry, but a 1-5 tournament record (continuing to make their conference tournament record awful, especially against teams from the "Power 6" conferences) is more than struggling. That's not holding up your end of the bargain for getting favorable seeds due to a high conference RPI.

Have to agree, and I hate terms like "overrated". That ooc record in the regular season is nice, but when it translates to one-and-dones vs what should be overmatched opponents, you're just not that good.

If it walks, quacks and looks like a duck...
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Old 03-22-2013, 06:30 PM   #1298
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ugh my entire west conference is almost completely ****ed. really gotta root for ohio st to make the final 4.
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Old 03-22-2013, 06:42 PM   #1299
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The reason why the conference had the #1 RPI (which is a imperfect system) is because their teams manged to play a bunch of bad teams that weren't terrible in the OOC. As the RPI calculates by your record, your opponent's records, and their opponent's records.

So you can cheat the system by playing those 75-150 ranked teams and end up with a very high RPI.
Their OOC schedules were still (by the SOS formula) better than the B1G and Big East's. So I guess those conferences' schools played bad teams? No one cheated anything.

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Old 03-22-2013, 07:07 PM   #1300
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this starks guy is driving exceptionally well.
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Old 03-22-2013, 07:24 PM   #1301
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man kstate and wisconsin losing kind of busted that part of my bracket. Oh well.

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Old 03-22-2013, 07:33 PM   #1302
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im third in my group but have the second lowest possible points. 4 of my 16 sweet sixteen teams are out, including one that was in the elite 8.

my coinflip bracket is 10 of 24, haha.
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Old 03-22-2013, 07:39 PM   #1303
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Georgetown, along with Pitt, always seems to struggle in the postseason. I have them losing to UF in the Sweet 16.
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Old 03-22-2013, 07:40 PM   #1304
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Georgetown, along with Pitt, always seems to struggle in the postseason. I have them losing to UF in the Sweet 16.
i have the same.
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Old 03-22-2013, 07:44 PM   #1305
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unc is red hot right now. really good play
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