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Old 11-13-2012, 11:00 PM   #16
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wait....what?!?!
I don't think teams are lining up to hire D'antoni
He had no job and was just chilling at home. If he was offered a multi-million job offer as a head coach in feb he'd take it, not to mention the prestigious job of a lakers head coach and reuniting with Nash.
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:02 PM   #17
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By all means, I agree. Just describing their apparent thought process.

Like I said, how the **** are you going to run an offense predicated on spacing by jump-shooters when you have no jump-shooters?

A better question is, given that Lakers don't have the jump shooters like you say they don't, how do you win an NBA championship?
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:18 PM   #18
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I don't think teams are lining up to hire D'antoni
He had no job and was just chilling at home. If he was offered a multi-million job offer as a head coach in feb he'd take it, not to mention the prestigious job of a lakers head coach and reuniting with Nash.
why would the lakers wait til feb to bring in a head coach? what planet are you living on? it's nov 13th round here bro, lakers aren't waiting 3 month to bring in a head coach, what the fck you think this is? you realize the season started last month, right? i just don't get what you're saying. did you think mike d woulda coached the lakers without a contract? is that even legal? i'm seriously confused right now.
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:21 PM   #19
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why would the lakers wait til feb to bring in a head coach? what planet are you living on? it's nov 13th round here bro, lakers aren't waiting 3 month to bring in a head coach, what the fck you think this is? you realize the season started last month, right?

did you take it seriously in my first post that I meant the lakers should wait until february? How naive are you? I meant it figuratively, D'antoni would not be going anywhere. The lakers could have used their time wisely to select the best coach, instead of signing in 24 hours, when they have a meeting set up with Phil 12 hours later. That's the whole point, damn.

and yes, regardless of what the lakers do, if they wanted to hire d'antoni in Feb, he'd still say yes.
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yep, rock on, blackwaves. you did describe it well.
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:22 PM   #21
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Everyone knows Phil and Jim do not get along. I dont think he and Mitch and Dr Buss ever had problems. but he and that son clash

Dantoni seemed to be 70 percent steve, 20 percent Kobe agreeing and Dwight saying 10 percent.

I still think Kobe wanted Phil, you could tell he did.
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:39 PM   #22
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Kinda sounded like Mitch was just being the bigger man. He let Phil say/think what he wants.
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They say D'Antoni was chosen because he's the best fit for the personnel and what they want to do with the team, but I'm skeptical Dantoni style is really the best way to go.

The biggest challenges for the Lakers are Thunder and Heat. If Lakers play a fast paced game that is playing right into the Heat/Thunders hand. Both of those teams are just so athletic. To me it seems like a slower paced, solid half court game game(triangle) with a focus on defense, rebounding, and using size to our advantage with a superior coach would be the way to take them down. To me that seems like the best use of the Lakers current personnel.

D'Antoni uses a lot of pick and rolls and the Heat are so good at defending the pick and roll. Everyone is so fast on that Heat team and there rotations are good. The heat trying to defend the post and rebound against bigger players on the other hand seems like their only weakness.

Oh well if nothing else D'Antoni will bring showtime back to LA and that's what Jerry Buss has wanted for a while.
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:45 PM   #24
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Default Re: Mitch Finally Adds Clarity to Lakers' Coaching Decision/Rumors About Phil's Demands

Reading this, I'm even MORE perplexed. Mitch says he has a job to do. Isn't part of his job waiting to hear Phil Jackson's response on Monday? Why not just wait another day to make a final decision? It's not like D'Antoni has another job offer.....so why not wait, hear what Phil has to say.....and then make a decision by Tuesday?

So if Phil said Saturday he was interested, then he would have got the job? HUH????

We're not getting the real story or something.
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Because they didn't want Phil back. It was a goodbye kiss and happy retirement party all in one visit.
More like a goodbye punch in the mouth.

None of this is making any sense. If they truly didn't want PJax, and thought an up-tempo offense was needed, why not have MDA all lined up after what appears to be a panic firing of Mike Brown?

Once Brown was fired, the Lakers FO had to know that the speculation would explode that PJax was coming back. So, why not leave Brown in place until you have everything worked out for a smooth transition?

So, if there was no replacement ready and waiting, and no real plan for replacement, why exactly was Brown fired?
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yep, rock on, blackwaves. you did describe it well.

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Reading this, I'm even MORE perplexed. Mitch says he has a job to do. Isn't part of his job waiting to hear Phil Jackson's response on Monday? Why not just wait another day to make a final decision? It's not like D'Antoni has another job offer.....so why not wait, hear what Phil has to say.....and then make a decision by Tuesday?

So if Phil said Saturday he was interested, then he would have got the job? HUH????

We're not getting the real story or something.

Because once Mitch spoke to D'Antoni, and listened to and compared how he detailed how he'd use each player (particularly Nash and Dwight) on offense and defense (as a team) to how Phil described he would utilize the players, he was overly convinced that D'Antoni's system (not coach...but system) was best for their team. At which point, it didn't matter what Phil had to say, Mitch, Jim, and Dr. Buss felt strongly that they had already found their coach.

I think if Phil says "I want the job," upon their meeting Saturday, then D'Antoni doesn't get that interview over the phone, and Phil is the coach. But, once Mitch had a chance to mull over both descriptions of how the team would operate, his judgment leaned towards D'Antoni. Seems like (at least the way it's being portrayed) this was more of a debate on system, than coach (which is both smart and stupid at the same time).
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Considering Mike D'antoni won't be able to coach the Lakers immediately anyways, what was the rush to sign the contract on Sunday?

You know you can wait until February and D'antoni would still sign that contract. Why not give Phil some respect since a meeting was set-up on Monday, to hear him out, even if you disagree about the personnel working? Let him tell you his plans first? What is there to lose? What is 12 hours here to gain or lose?

Why the race against time here? There was no competition, and D'antoni wouldn't have been able to coach immediately anyways.

The point is, they have decided that Dantoni is the best man for the job. It was not "Oh Phil made us wait too long so lets go with other people". No no. It was "Dantoni is the right coach for us at this time, not phil Jackson or anyone else."
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