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Old 04-12-2010, 03:09 PM   #1
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As I promised before two weeks I published the data collected by me:

Regular season – 1969-70

1. Date: Fri 10/24/69
- Chamberlain 25 pts, 25 rebs, 5 as, 3 blocks, 9-14 FG/FGA W
-Abdul-Jabbar 23 pts, 20 rebs, 2 as, 2 blocks, 9-21 FG/FGA L

Regular season – 1970-71

2. Date: Fri 11/20/70
- Chamberlain 28 pts, 23 rebs, 3 as, 10 blocks, 7-20 FG/FGA – 6 blocks against Jabbar L
-Abdul-Jabbar 29 pts, 13 rebs, 0 as, 2 blocks, 13-32 FG/FGA W

3. Date: Mon 12/21/70
- Chamberlain 25 pts, 14 rebs, 3 as, 2 blocks, 11-23 FG/FGA L
-Abdul-Jabbar 37 pts, 16 rebs, 0 as, 4 blocks, 17-33 FG/FGA W

4. Date: Fri 02/05/71
- Chamberlain 14 pts, 14 rebs, 3 as, 6 blocks, 7-10 FG/FGA W
-Abdul-Jabbar 27 pts, 10 rebs, 3 as, * blocks, 10-21 FG/FGA L

5. Date: Thu 02/11/71
- Chamberlain 25 pts, 11 rebs, 1 as, * blocks, 10-19 FG/FGA L
-Abdul-Jabbar 31 pts, 21 rebs, 0 as, * blocks, 13-30 FG/FGA – 2 blocks against Wilt W

6. Date: Wed 03/03/71
- Chamberlain 24 pts, 13 rebs, 5 as, 8 blocks, 7-15 FG/FGA L
-Abdul-Jabbar 15 pts, 6 rebs, 2 as, * blocks, 7-21 FG/FGA W

Post season – 1970-71 – WCF playoffs

7. Date: Fri 04/09/71
- Chamberlain 22 pts, 20 rebs, 1 as, 8 blocks, 10-19 FG/FGA – 3 blocks against Jabbar L
-Abdul-Jabbar 32 pts, 22 rebs, 1 as, 1 blocks, 14-30 FG/FGA W

8. Date: Sun 04/11/71
- Chamberlain 26 pts, 22 rebs, 0 as, 3 blocks, 10-21 FG/FGA - Wilt blocked numerious shots L
-Abdul-Jabbar 22 pts, 10 rebs, 4 as, * blocks, 9-19 FG/FGA W

9. Date: Wed 04/14/71
- Chamberlain 24 pts, 24 rebs, 3 as, 3 blocks, 9-19 FG/FGA W
-Abdul-Jabbar 20 pts, 19 rebs, 6 as, 0 blocks, 8-16 FG/FGA L

10.Date: Fri 04/16/71
- Chamberlain 15 pts, 16 rebs, 2 as, 2 blocks, 7-14 FG/FGA L
-Abdul-Jabbar 31 pts, 20 rebs, 5 as, * blocks, 14-20 FG/FGA W

11.Date: Sun 04/18/71
- Chamberlain 23 pts, 12 rebs, 4 as, 6 blocks, 10-21 FG/FGA – 5 blocks against Jabbar L
-Abdul-Jabbar 20 pts, 15 rebs, 5 as, 3 blocks, 7-23 FG/FGA W

According to an article from 19.04.1971 Wilt blocked 22 shots and Lew Alcindor blocked 10 shots for the 5 game series.

Regular season – 1971-72

12.Date: Sat 11/21/71
- Chamberlain 11 pts, 26 rebs, 6 as, 4 blocks, 4-9 FG/FGA W
-Abdul-Jabbar 39 pts, 17 rebs, 6 as, * blocks, 17-33 FG/FGA L

13.Date: Sun 01/09/72
- Chamberlain 15 pts, 12 rebs, 2 as, 6 blocks, 7-11 FG/FGA L
-Abdul-Jabbar 39 pts, 20 rebs, 5 as, 9 blocks, 18-34 FG/FGA W

14.Date: Fri 02/04/72
- Chamberlain 18 pts, 25 rebs, 3 as, * blocks, 8-14 FG/FGA W
-Abdul-Jabbar 40 pts, 18 rebs, 4 as, * blocks, 16-33 FG/FGA L

15.Date: Wed 03/01/72
- Chamberlain 8 pts, 17 rebs, 5 as, * blocks, 3-5 FG/FGA W
-Abdul-Jabbar 33 pts, 12 rebs, 8 as, * blocks, 13-33 FG/FGA L

16.Date: Fri 03/17/72
- Chamberlain 18 pts, 25 rebs, 5 as, * blocks, 7-15 FG/FGA W
-Abdul-Jabbar 50 pts, 8 rebs, 2 as, * blocks, 22-39 FG/FGA L

Post season – 1971-72 – WCF playoffs

17.Date: Sun 04/09/72
- Chamberlain 10 pts, 24 rebs, 0 as, * blocks, 3-12 FG/FGA L
-Abdul-Jabbar 33 pts, 18 rebs, 2 as, * blocks, 14-26 FG/FGA W

18.Date: Wed 04/12/72
- Chamberlain 11 pts, 17 rebs, 4 as, * blocks, 3-5 FG/FGA W
-Abdul-Jabbar 40 pts, 7 rebs, 7 as, * blocks, 18-31 FG/FGA L

19.Date: Fri 04/14/72
- Chamberlain 7 pts, 14 rebs, 4 as, 10 blocks, 1-3 FG/FGA – 6 blocks against Jabbar W
-Abdul-Jabbar 33 pts, 21 rebs, 6 as, * blocks, 15-37 FG/FGA L

20.Date: Sun 04/16/72
- Chamberlain 5 pts, 11 rebs, 4 as, 3 blocks, 2-7 FG/FGA L
-Abdul-Jabbar 31 pts, 18 rebs, 3 as, 7 blocks, 14-33 FG/FGA W

21.Date: Tue 04/18/72
- Chamberlain 12 pts, 26 rebs, 6 as, 9 blocks, 2-3 FG/FGA - 4 blocks against Jabbar W
-Abdul-Jabbar 28 pts, 16 rebs, 3 as, * blocks, 13-33 FG/FGA L

22.Date: Sat 04/22/72
- Chamberlain 20 pts, 24 rebs, 2 as, 9 blocks, 8-12 FG/FGA - 3 blocks and 2 steals against Jabbar W
-Abdul-Jabbar 37 pts, 25 rebs, 8 as, * blocks, 16-37 FG/FGA L

Regular season – 1972-73


23.Date: Tue 11/14/72
- Chamberlain 16 pts, 15 rebs, 1 as, * blocks, 8-12 FG/FGA W
-Abdul-Jabbar 37 pts, 16 rebs, 6 as, 7 blocks, 17-32 FG/FGA L

24.Date: Tue 12/05/72
- Chamberlain 9 pts, 15 rebs, 7 as, * blocks, 4-4 FG/FGA W
-Abdul-Jabbar 29 pts, 17 rebs, 6 as, * blocks, 11-30 FG/FGA L

25.Date: Sun 01/07/73
- Chamberlain 9 pts, 18 rebs, 2 as, * blocks, 3-5 FG/FGA L
-Abdul-Jabbar 37 pts, 12 rebs, 7 as, * blocks, 17-36 FG/FGA W

26.Date: Fri 02/09/73
- Chamberlain 8 pts, 14 rebs, 4 as, * blocks, 3-3 FG/FGA L
-Abdul-Jabbar 29 pts, 24 rebs, 2 as, * blocks, 14-24 FG/FGA W

27.Date: Sun 02/25/73
- Chamberlain 24 pts, 20 rebs, 4 as, * blocks, 10-14 FG/FGA W
-Abdul-Jabbar 21 pts, 21 rebs, 6 as, * blocks, 10-27 FG/FGA L

28.Date: Tue 03/27/73
- Chamberlain 0 pts, 14 rebs, 4 as, * blocks, 0-0 FG/FGA L
-Abdul-Jabbar 24 pts, 17 rebs, 1 as, * blocks, 12-31 FG/FGA W

W = team wоn
L = team lost

The total minutes played:
Chamberlain - 1259 minutes or 44.96 per game
Jabbar - 1208 minutes or 43.14 per game

The FTs data:
Chamberlain - 106 from 218 (48.62 %)
Jabbar - 111 from 155 (71.61 %)

* Blocked stats are collected from archive newspapers articles (as most of the data), NBA doesn't kept track of blocked shots before 1973/74 season. I find in the forum info about Wilt blocked 8 shots in game 1 of 1971/72 regular season, but I was not able to find evidence in google news archive search,so again I do not post it.

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Old 04-12-2010, 03:14 PM   #2
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What's the W - L situation like?
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What's the W - L situation like?

I will reedit my post and try to add Winner - Looser - thanks for the remark.
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Good post, as you have found the field goal attempts as well. I would love to see Kareem's 50 pointer if the NBA ever releases it.

16.Date: Fri 03/17/72
- Chamberlain 18 pts, 25 rebs, 5 as, * blocks, 7-15 FG/FGA W
-Abdul-Jabbar 50 pts, 8 rebs, 2 as, * blocks, 22-39 FG/FGA L
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Great job with the research. Two top 3 centers of all time, it would have been interesting to see Kareem vs 1967 Wilt.
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Great post!! excellent stats!! I don't know where you digged out all those data and including the FGM/FGA, but your stats are amazing!!

I've tried to get the famous "two game 20 blocks including 11 on Jabbar" on google news achive, but all are pay to read... so, no way to confirm its realiability.

The only footage that widely spread out on youtube was the one that Jabbar ended Lakers' 33 win streak on Sun 01/09/72:
- Chamberlain 15 pts, 12 rebs, 2 as, 6 blocks, 7-11 FG/FGA L
-Abdul-Jabbar 39 pts, 20 rebs, 5 as, 9 blocks, 18-34 FG/FGA W


Such a huge pity the rest of the footage of their matcups were lost, I personally consider Wilt vs Jabbar's matchup is the GOAT, better than Hakeem vs Shaq, Jabbar vs Hakeem, and Wilt vs Russell which might be a great matchup, but according to Wilt himself, Jabbar was the only opponent that he felt he might need some help to guard.

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As I promised before two weeks I published the data collected by me:

Regular season 1969-70

1. Date: Fri 10/24/69
- Chamberlain 25 pts, 25 rebs, 5 as, 3 blocks, 9-14 FG/FGA W
-Abdul-Jabbar 23 pts, 20 rebs, 2 as, 2 blocks, 9-21 FG/FGA L

I posted this particular game for a reason. Wilt blew out his knee on 11/7/1969. While that injury didn't affect his vertical leap, it did limit his lateral mobility, and his offense was never the same. That was an interesting year for Wilt, BTW. From 66-67 to 68-69, his coaches asked him to distribute the ball, and his scoring dropped dramatically. But, after Van Breda Kolf was fired after the '68-69 game seven debacle, the new Laker coach, Joe Mullaney, asked Wilt to score. And Wilt responded with a 32.2 ppg average in the first nine games. However, in that ninth game, and after scoring 33 points on 13-13 shooting, Wilt suffered that knee injury...and, once again, was never the same.

Of course, Kareem (Lew Alcindor at the time) was just beginning his career, so he was not nearly as great as he would become. Which means, that we had a Chamberlain who was probably on a slight decline, going against a young Kareem, who was going to get better.

As, ShaqAttack posted...THE matchup would have been Wilt, circa 1967, AND, asked to CARRY the offense,...pitted against Kareem, who probably peaked early in his career (the numbers support that), in the 71-72 season.

In any case, this was one of the most insightful posts that I ever read on this forum. Great stuff!
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BIASED! What was the age difference? Thats like pulling up Kobe stats against Jordan Wizadrs
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Wow Wilt Chamberlain is a better defender then given credit for. Dude was holding KAJ at his peak (arguable GOAT peak) to nearly 100 points below his shooting percentages in some series! I mean, dude had KAJ shooting in the lower 40s in the last 4 games of the 71-72 WCF at a old age. If I am not mistaken, Wilt was also making guys like Nate Thurmond among other life a living hell (does anyone know what were Thurmond's numbers were against Wilt?). I think what Wilt was doing in the late 60s and early 70s was really impressive considering that was when the first wave of great centers came in the league and he was playing amainzing defense on them which kind of takes away from the "Wilt dominated a weak ere bs".

I wouldn't say Wilt shut down KAJ by any means though but it is still impressive what he did against Kareem considering Kareem is the same guy who made great defenders like Walton his b!tch. Would love to see more full games between the two then any other heahd to head matchup in NBA history honestly.
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Wow Wilt Chamberlain is a better defender then given credit for.

Chamberlain (and Russell) is a better (fill in blank) than most will give credit for, much like the humiliation noted in this thread below.


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=123189





I would also say his frontcourt partner Lucious Jackson is also very underrated as most may not even know who he is. From the tape I have seen nothing suggests that he wouldn't be the best power big man today.


"When he went for a rebound, he instilled the fear of God in people."

"Luke Jackson was the ultimate powar forward. That's because he created the position. He had power and could rebound, but he also had grace and could shoot. He could have been a great center, but he adapted his game to become a forward. He was a hustling intelligent player. I think we complimented each other's abilities very well."
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Coach Hannum also noted during his HOF induction in 1998 that the '67 Sixers could take on any team that has ever been assembled, including the Dream Team.







There were the great Celtic and Laker teams and Da Bulls. But Alex Hannum, one of seven inductees into the Basketball Hall of Fame here last night and the only man to coach championships in both the NBA and ABA, said one of his clubs, the 1966-67 Sixers, was as good as any - even the fabled Olympic Dream Team. And supporting the claim was the focal point of that 68-win squad, Wilt Chamberlain.

"We compare with any team that's ever been put together", said Hannum, whose gang that season included Chet Walker, Hal Greer, Luke Jackson, Wali Jones and, of course, Chamberlain.

"When I say "we,' I mean the '66-67 team, and I mean that even to include the Dream Team."

Chamberlain, Hannum's sponsor at the induction, emphasized the team aspect of the group.

"I concur with Alex", Chamberlain said.
"In order to really maximize any five players, they have to be a team. Because you have the five best players of a particular era out there on the floor, that didn't make them a team. So as a team, we would challenge any of the Dream Teams."

As for the Bulls, Wilt was skeptical noting, "It's hard to talk about how great Chicago is because they are just so far superior to anything they have faced. I would have loved to have had them in our era to see how they would have truly measured up."
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If I am not mistaken, Wilt was also making guys like Nate Thurmond among other life a living hell (does anyone know what were Thurmond's numbers were against Wilt?).

I repost it from one of my earlier posts http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...=168650&page=9

1967 NBA Finals (6 games):
Wilt Chamberlain - 17.7 ppg, 28.5 rpg, 6.8 apg 56 % FG
Nate Thurmond - 14.2 ppg, 26.6 rpg, 3.3 apg 34,3 % FG

1969 NBA WC playoffs (6 games)
Wilt Chamberlain - 12.0 ppg, 23.5 rpg, 3.0 apg 50 % FG
Nate Thurmond - 16.7 ppg, 19.5 rpg, 4.7 apg 39,2 % FG

1973 NBA WC playoffs (5 games)
Wilt Chamberlain - 8.0 ppg, 23.6 rpg, 4.0 apg 55 % FG
Nate Thurmond - 15.8 ppg, 17.2pg, 4.2 apg 39,8 % FG
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As you all of you know Wilt Chamberlain was terrible foul shooter - but in the five games against Kareem (then Lew Alcindor) in 1970-71 reg.season he shot free throws better than Milwaukee center - 14-16, 3-7, 0-2, 5-6, 10-12 for a total of 32 from 43 FT attempts (74,4 FT %).
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I would also say his frontcourt partner Lucious Jackson is also very underrated as most may not even know who he is. From the tape I have seen nothing suggests that he wouldn't be the best power big man today.

Luke Jackson may have been underrated for all we know, but he wasn't a franchise player. There's absolutely no way he'd be as good as Dwight Howard in any era. There's a difference between superstars and good, solid players. I highly doubt Jackson at his best was anything more than a Horace Grant or Charles Oakley type of his era and I'm a big fan of both, but neither are superstars.

Then there's Shaq who was an all-star just last season, can still put up numbers when he gets the minutes, will play good post defense on traditional post players, block some shots, rebound well in the minutes he's out there and bang in the post with anyone.

Aside from Howard and Shaq, there's Kendrick Perkins who is one of the strongest and toughest players you'll see, a guy who only wants to play tough, physical post defense, block shots, score in the paint and rebound.

Nene is also a legit power player who has become a real quality big man and when Greg Oden is healthy, he also has a real power game. But for the most part, most superstars haven't been power players.
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