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Old 11-13-2012, 08:01 PM   #1
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Default Mitch Finally Adds Clarity to Lakers' Coaching Decision/Rumors About Phil's Demands

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Lakers owner Dr. Jerry Buss, VP Jim Buss and GM Mitch Kupchak collectively came to the decision to hire Mike D'Antoni on Sunday night at about 5 p.m.

On Tuesday morning, Kupchak met with selected reporters to address the coaching hire, discussing why D'Antoni got the job and explaining the process the team went through with former coach Phil Jackson.

In short, the Lakers felt that D'Antoni's style of play is what will most benefit the personnel on the roster.

Below is a summary of Kupchak's comments:

Q: On what took place with Phil Jackson:
Kupchak: Much has been made of the perceived agreement to wait until Monday. The actual way it took place after a basketball discussion was, 'Where are we now?,' and Phil said he needed more time. I asked him how much more time, and he said he'd get back to (us) on Monday. I said, 'Phil, I have a job to do and I'm going to have to continue my search and interview candidates.' He nodded that he understood. Maybe herein lies a little bit of the misunderstanding. As it was reported, we never offered a job, and he never indicated he would coach the team. It was a basketball discussion revolving around a lot of questions. So we did what I indicated we would do, which is when I left Phil's house, I began discussions with Mike D'Antoni on Saturday afternoon, and we also set up an interview with another candidate for Sunday. All day Sunday, Jim and I and Dr. Buss (from another location) continued to discuss what the (best move) would be. After multiple phone calls with Mike D'Antoni on Sunday afternoon, at 5 or 6 o'clock on Sunday, we made the decision that Mike D'Antoni was going to be the next coach of the Lakers. It revolved almost completely around the personnel that we have on the team and the style of play we saw going forward for the team. Of course we took into consideration a structured offense, which is what we went through with Mike Brown. We looked at our personnel – without going into great detail, some of our guys I don't think would be successful in the triangle, (and) some of our new players might take a long time to learn the triangle. So we decided Mike would (be the coach).

Q: On calling Phil Jackson at midnight to relay the decision:
Kupchak: Our feeling was, the worst thing we can do – since we already made our decision – was to wait until Monday. I could (have) gotten a call from Phil on Monday morning saying he thought about it, and he would like to be the coach and let's start negotiations. To say at the point that we'd decided to go in a different direction, our feeling was that would be even worse than what we did on Sunday night. Our feeling was there was no agreement to wait for (Jackson's) response on Monday. He told us that’s when he would get back to us. I could see where he might interpret that as 'You guys would wait for me,' but I thought when I said I had to interview other candidates it was clear that we had a job to do. I could have waited until Monday morning to call Phil – I didn't look forward to calling somebody at midnight to tell him he's not going to get a job he might or might not accept, but the only other thing I could do was wait until Monday morning and that would have been worse, because (the news had gotten out).

Editor's Note: From Lakers spokesman John Black: It took from 6 p.m. to 11:30 p.m. until a contract with D'Antoni was negotiated and completed, being faxed back and forth and so on from D'Antoni's house outside of New York City. The reason Kupchak didn't call Jackson until around midnight was that the deal with D'Antoni was not completed until that time. It was an attempted courtesy, though Jackson clearly thought that he would have a chance to discuss it again on Monday. Kupchak acknowledged that if Jackson had made it clear he wanted the job on Saturday, the process may have gone differently.

Q: On Phil's reaction:
Kupchak: I believe I woke him up. He's always a little cryptic on the phone, but I did wake him up, and in those kinds of situations, there is not a lot of small talk. We did talk about the team a little bit, and Mike D'Antoni and how he runs the team. (Jackson) was very complimentary of Mike under the circumstances. I just told (Jackson), almost verbatim, what our release was. We just felt that the present make up of the team and the kind of basketball we wanted to play going forward, we just thought that Mike D'Antoni was the choice.

Q: On what was discussed in the meeting with Jackson:
Kupchak: There was no discussion of salary in the meeting. I don't know why there would be. The job wasn't offered, and he didn't say he wanted the job. We touched briefly on personnel input, which he would hope that he'd have more input. And we talked about the rigors of travel in the NBA. But there was no demands or in depth discussion about missing games. Missing games because of travel was not discussed.

Q: On the conversations he had with D'Antoni that convinced him to make the decision:
Kupchak: I've been around so long that there aren't too many veteran coaches that I don't know and know well, and I've known Mike for quite some time. We played against them in all those series in Phoenix. I know what he does. I know what his perceived deficiencies are. But on Saturday, I had several conversations by myself (with Mike) and then on Sunday there were several with Jim and I that lasted an hour or two in total, asking those types of questions. Obviously (I was convinced). I don't think it's a surprise that he looks at our team and likes our team. In his mind, he has it figured out exactly how he wants to play. We discussed his defensive philosophy, going behind the picks, showing on picks, it's going to be a little bit different from what Mike Brown does. Which direction he pushes the defender or the offensive player - it's going to be a little bit different from what Mike Brown does.

He plays the way we see this team playing and our personnel executing. We didn't feel with Mike Brown and the Princeton offense that we were getting the most out of the players we brought in this summer. We looked for a coach that could get the most out of the players we brought in this summer, and on top of that the existing players. So clearly it was a huge factor.

Q: On there being belief on Saturday that Phil Jackson would be the coach:
Kupchak: When we decided to make the change and we talked about a couple of possibilities, Phil was not lumped in as one of the possibilities that we thought would be a reality. He had retired on his own a year and a half ago, and he told me two months ago that he never wanted to coach again. He was done coaching, but he wanted to stay involved in basketball in one (aspect). That wasn't a surprise to me. And when we made the change, we discussed in advance, although we don't think he wants to be a part of it and we're not looking to go in that direction, there's going to be a firestorm of support. And of course, on Friday, that started. By Friday night, I was talking with ownership about (Phil being) something we had to consider. The decision was made Saturday morning to meet with Phil, to see his take on it, what his condition was, his mental and physical approach, and that's what we did. I'd say up until that point, it remained percentage-wise more of a possibility that we'd ask him if he said yes to coach, although it never got there. The groundswell of support ... there was a lot of pressure to seriously consider bringing Phil back or asking him to consider to come back.

There are also portions addressing Mitch's perspective on the role Dwight's future played in his decision making at the end of the actual article.

So, it would appear that members of the media perpetuated the sentiment that Phil "wanted the moon," including the particulars regarding his health and travel restrictions; a claim that now both Phil and Mitch have denied. The question is, is this another case of news reporters on Twitter and elsewhere on the world wide web fabricating story plots to garner 'clicks" for their articles, story plots that eventually pick up traction? Or, was that piece of information originally generated by members of the Lakers brass, hoping to conduct a PR spin that would paint Phil as unreasonable and make the Lakers front office seem competent in not signing him?

It's also interesting that Mitch noted that had Phil said yes immediately on Saturday, he may have been hired as the coach instead of D'Antoni. Kupchak does have a job to do, but you would just think that Phil's successful tenure as a member of their organization would afford him a little bit more than a day to make a decision. Reminds me of how Presti gave Harden one hour to mull over his final contract offer.

And LOL at thinking a coach's philosophy that never resulted in even ONE Finals birth would fit better with their personnel than a system run by a coach that has achieved 13 trips to the Finals in 20 years.
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Considering Mike D'antoni won't be able to coach the Lakers immediately anyways, what was the rush to sign the contract on Sunday?

You know you can wait until February and D'antoni would still sign that contract. Why not give Phil some respect since a meeting was set-up on Monday, to hear him out, even if you disagree about the personnel working? Let him tell you his plans first? What is there to lose? What is 12 hours here to gain or lose?

Why the race against time here? There was no competition, and D'antoni wouldn't have been able to coach immediately anyways.
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The risk was as each day went by the anticipation from the fans was growing. Particularly since every source said it was a done deal. They needed to kill that line of thought before they were too far to do damage control. Over not a great move but makes sense if D'antoni is your choice.
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those answers sounded very reasonable if the one of the candidates hadn't of been phil jackson.

in any world in which the current laws of reality of hold, if phil jackson expressed even a little bit of interest, you damn well try to work with him to bring him back. you stay a little bit patient and you don't do something impetuous like bring in a decidedly inferior coach like d'antoni unless you know for sure that jackson's out.

period. end of story. it's as simple as that.
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Considering Mike D'antoni won't be able to coach the Lakers immediately anyways, what was the rush to sign the contract on Sunday?

You know you can wait until February and D'antoni would still sign that contract. Why not give Phil some respect since a meeting was set-up on Monday, to hear him out, even if you disagree about the personnel working? Let him tell you his plans first? What is there to lose? What is 12 hours here to gain or lose?

Why the race against time here? There was no competition, and D'antoni wouldn't have been able to coach immediately anyways.
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Considering Mike D'antoni won't be able to coach the Lakers immediately anyways, what was the rush to sign the contract on Sunday?

Mitch "obviously wasn't convinced his [Phil] Triangle offense wouldn't marginalize Nash" the way the Princeton offense did.

The move was made to use a system to get the absolute most out of Howard and Nash.

You can't use a pick and roll system predicated on spacing by shooters with a team with....no shooters.
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those answers sounded very reasonable if the one of the candidates hadn't of been phil jackson.

in any world in which the current laws of reality of hold, if phil jackson expressed even a little bit of interest, you damn well try to work with him to bring him back. you stay a little bit patient and you don't do something impetuous like bring in a decidedly inferior coach like d'antoni unless you know for sure that jackson's out.

period. end of story. it's as simple as that.

You're basing your premise on this notion that Mitch, Jim, and Jerry wanted Phil over anyone, and signed D'Antoni out of panic that Phil wouldn't sign.

The truth is, for better or for worse, the Lakers front office...from Jerry to Mitch...did not think the Triangle was the best system for their team.

Also something interesting. Mitch has said that Jerry (not Jim, though he's still an idiot anyway) has always wanted the Lakers to return to an up-tempo offense as depicted by his Showtime Lakers. It's just that (as a competent owner) he saw that the Triangle was bringing results in the form of championships, and he wasn't going to argue with results.

Apparently he saw the chance to get his wish of a faster pace Lakers squad, and jumped on it. But, if that's the case, why the **** did you let your son hire Mike Brown over another offensive genius in Rick Adelman?
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Considering Mike D'antoni won't be able to coach the Lakers immediately anyways, what was the rush to sign the contract on Sunday?

Because they didn't want Phil back. It was a goodbye kiss and happy retirement party all in one visit. The Lakers need new blood, time to stop recycling Jackson, fans forget what a disinterested coach he was in his final season. D'Antoni could coach for years if things work out, Jackson 2 at the most
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You're basing your premise on this notion that Mitch, Jim, and Jerry wanted Phil over anyone, and signed D'Antoni out of panic that Phil wouldn't sign.

The truth is, for better or for worse, the Lakers front office...from Jerry to Mitch...did not think the Triangle was the best system for their team.

Also something interesting. Mitch has said that Jerry (not Jim, though he's still an idiot anyway) has always wanted the Lakers to return to an up-tempo offense as depicted by his Showtime Lakers. It's just that (as a competent owner) he saw that the Triangle was bringing results in the form of championships, and he wasn't going to argue with results.

Apparently he saw the chance to get his wish of a faster pace Lakers squad, and jumped on it. But, if that's the case, why the **** did you let your son hire Mike Brown over another offensive genius in Rick Adelman?
i appreciate all that, but i still say that anyone with sense makes PJ the #1 candidate, period.

yes, the triangle might theoretically be worse than an uptempo offense, but... IT'S PHIL JACKSON. the idea that he couldn't or wouldn't adapt to fit the current personnel is patently absurd. not to mention, the triangle is not really the key to PJ's success, anyway. tex winter, yes, phil jackson, no. IMO the key to jackson's success is the brilliant way he managed and motivated his stars, and that could have worked with a number of systems.

don't even need to consider the fact that mike d'antoni's offense has never brought deep playoff success. such a consideration should be irrelevant while PJ was a possibility.
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i appreciate all that, but i still say that anyone with sense makes PJ the #1 candidate, period.

yes, the triangle might theoretically be worse than an uptempo offense, but... IT'S PHIL JACKSON. the idea that he couldn't or wouldn't adapt to fit the current personnel is patently absurd. not to mention, the triangle is not really the key to PJ's success, anyway. tex winter, yes, phil jackson, no. IMO the key to jackson's success is the brilliant way he managed and motivated his stars, and that could have worked with a number of systems.

don't even need to consider the fact that mike d'antoni's offense has never brought deep playoff success. such a consideration should be irrelevant while PJ was a possibility.

By all means, I agree. Just describing their apparent thought process.

Like I said, how the **** are you going to run an offense predicated on spacing by jump-shooters when you have no jump-shooters?
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I read all of the bold shit and he still didn't explain why he went with dantoni over phil. The triangle excuse is so weak smh. Steve is a smart cat he will easily learn that shit and there isn't too much for dwight to learn. Besides they have months, basically the entire season to get the hang of it not to mention that 3/5ths of the starting line-up knows that shit inside-out.
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