Re: Grant Hill shakes the pants off of Scottie Pippen and Dunks on him
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Originally Posted by Duncan21formvp
Actually late in this game Jordan took over guarding Grant Hill and locked him down. Not to mention Grant Hill actually played the same position that Pippen did so it made sense for Pippen to guard him.
Wow, is that game somehow special, or are you just a genius who can remember the details of every nba regular season game from the present back to 1998?
Re: Grant Hill shakes the pants off of Scottie Pippen and Dunks on him
Imagine if he was healthy his entire career.. character of ray allen, marketability of MJ and the fundamentals/easy attitude of Duncan.. would have been quite a player.
Re: Grant Hill shakes the pants off of Scottie Pippen and Dunks on him
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Originally Posted by tmacattack33
Wow, is that game somehow special, or are you just a genius who can remember the details of every nba regular season game from the present back to 1998?
It was a game that went into OT and I remembered the Crossover from years ago.
So you believe that stop was great one on one defender and had nothing to do with the perfectly positioned team defense against a poorly spaced team offense?
Re: Grant Hill shakes the pants off of Scottie Pippen and Dunks on him
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Originally Posted by Da KO King
So you believe that stop was great one on one defender and had nothing to do with the perfectly positioned team defense against a poorly spaced team offense?
were you trying to make it like i have noticed something interesting ? cause it's not the case at all, MJ defends the screen well and challenge perfectly the first step using his forearm and put his body ahead of Hill's shoulder avoiding the penetration and forced a tough shot...should have pass the ball to Joe after the screen though.
Re: Grant Hill shakes the pants off of Scottie Pippen and Dunks on him
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Originally Posted by Da KO King
So you believe that stop was great one on one defender
Yes? How can anyone not ... or specifically how can YOU not?
Sometimes I really wonder about you. Are you just contrarian for the sake of it? Or just flat out dumb? You claim to act like you know soooo much about ball, too. Even going to extents of creating your own thread discussing your views about the game.
You suck at it ... always have. I still remember you claiming Iverson didn't have handle, Beasely would be better than Rose (how is that working for ya?)
And now acting like this clip isn't SUPERB proof of a 35 year old man, playing utterly BEASTLY lock down defense?
Had nothing to do with court spacing. Look at MJ quickly and viciously fighting through a pick, and putting Grant Hill in a straight jacket.
Bad spacing? He had an ENTIRE side of the floor to operate and couldn't shake free of Jordan. Just STFU and KO yourself.
Re: Grant Hill shakes the pants off of Scottie Pippen and Dunks on him
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Originally Posted by Da KO King
So you believe that stop was great one on one defender and had nothing to do with the perfectly positioned team defense against a poorly spaced team offense?
Re: Grant Hill shakes the pants off of Scottie Pippen and Dunks on him
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Originally Posted by Money 23
Yes? How can anyone not ... or specifically how can YOU not?
Sometimes I really wonder about you. Are you just contrarian for the sake of it? Or just flat out dumb? You claim to act like you know soooo much about ball, too. Even going to extents of creating your own thread discussing your views about the game.
You suck at it ... always have. I still remember you claiming Iverson didn't have handle, Beasely would be better than Rose (how is that working for ya?)
And now acting like this clip isn't SUPERB proof of a 35 year old man, playing utterly BEASTLY lock down defense?
Had nothing to do with court spacing. Look at MJ quickly and viciously fighting through a pick, and putting Grant Hill in a straight jacket.
Bad spacing? He had an ENTIRE side of the floor to operate and couldn't shake free of Jordan. Just STFU and KO yourself.
Re: Grant Hill shakes the pants off of Scottie Pippen and Dunks on him
I think Hill actually had even more upside to his game when he got hurt. He got hurt really at the beginning stages of his prime years. Who knows how good Hill could have became. Hill was destined to be a top 10 GOAT SF minimum. And his total skillset at SF (on both ends of the court) in only matched by Bron, Pippen, and Hondo. I think Hill was evolving what Pip brought to the table and down the road Bron would take it to the next level. That's how the freak athlete, great all around small forward blueprint was supposed to go. Hill was supposed to be the link and he was but for too brief a time.
Re: Grant Hill shakes the pants off of Scottie Pippen and Dunks on him
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Originally Posted by bizil
I think Hill actually had even more upside to his game when he got hurt. He got hurt really at the beginning stages of his prime years. Who knows how good Hill could have became. Hill was destined to be a top 10 GOAT SF minimum. And his total skillset at SF (on both ends of the court) in only matched by Bron, Pippen, and Hondo. I think Hill was evolving what Pip brought to the table and down the road Bron would take it to the next level. That's how the freak athlete, great all around small forward blueprint was supposed to go. Hill was supposed to be the link and he was but for too brief a time.
Absolutely, good post.
Pippen was really the prototype for that point forward position.
Hill would've been the evolutionary link between Pip and the finalized EPITOME final product, LeBron James ... much the way Julius Erving was the evolutionary link between Michael Thompson, and the EPITOME final product, Michael Jordan.
Statistically he was just hitting his peak before he got that ankle injury too. It's sad we missed out on two generational defining players from the 90's Hill and Penny because of injury.