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Old 11-16-2012, 04:19 PM   #76
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Default Re: Israel's Assassination of Hamas Chief (Video) Raises Tensions on Both Sides of Gaza

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Palestinian citizens and members of Hamas are not synonymous. What's going on would be the equivalent of the Juarez Cartel sending hundreds of missiles into Texas, Arizona, and California. Do y'all really think the US would just sit there and take it? Regardless of where the conflict stems from, there are roads to peace and there are roads to war. Hamas chooses a road to war.

Except the Palestinian people have elected Hamas into positions of political power. They control the majority of the seats in Palestine's Parliament. Obviously there are many innocent civilians, but there are also a lot of Palestinians who share Hamas' sentiment.
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Old 11-16-2012, 04:20 PM   #77
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"Hamas militants have launched a rocket on Jerusalem - the first time the holy city has been targeted in decades - and the first such attack from Gaza".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-20365074

Would be hilarious if they accidentally hit the Dome of the Rock
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Old 11-16-2012, 04:32 PM   #78
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Default Re: Israel's Assassination of Hamas Chief (Video) Raises Tensions on Both Sides of Gaza

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Is that shit real, or was it just dubbed?
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Old 11-16-2012, 04:40 PM   #79
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Default Re: Israel's Assassination of Hamas Chief (Video) Raises Tensions on Both Sides of Gaza

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Except the Palestinian people have elected Hamas into positions of political power. They control the majority of the seats in Palestine's Parliament. Obviously there are many innocent civilians, but there are also a lot of Palestinians who share Hamas' sentiment.

I'm sure there are. I'm know there's alot of anti-Israel sentiments in the region from civilians and government alike, not just in Gaza or the West Bank. The point is, this is a violent, terroristic organization that denounces peace regularly. If you ask me, treat an organization like what it is acting like. Israel is taking offensive measure to ensure it's security, Hamas want not only their land back, they want the destruction of Israel. Even if it Hamas has the people's support, that should not be fuel for war-like motives.
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Default Re: Israel's Assassination of Hamas Chief (Video) Raises Tensions on Both Sides of Gaza

Israelis have to defend themselves from rockets flying at them and absolutely in the short term the only way to do that is to eliminate the sources of them.

But whenever there are lulls in fighting, less rocket attacks, they do themselves absolutely no favors. The settlers are indefensible and so is the embrace of the status quo. As long as a solution is not found, more and more territory is occupied by settlers. They are relatively thinning out the population of Israeli Jews and increasing their land while Palestinian population increases in a smaller space. The result of this is pretty obvious the "security" issue is going to be more and more important and the "security" party is going to be elected.

The Palestinians in the West Bank have been remarkably calm the past couple years despite some nasty incidents with aggressive settlers. Likud guys always will offer talks with Fatah at the height of a cycle of violence with Hamas when they know that Abbas has his hands tied politically, you can't look like an Israeli lapdog while the Gaza strip is getting bombed. In times of (relative) stability when Fatah wants to move things along, Likud says "they're not serious they didn't even want to talk earlier." The right wing doesn't want a partner to negotiate with. I honestly think Bibi's dream scenario is to make the (relatively) moderate Palestinians so unpopular that the Palestinians start killing eachother again in the West Bank.

To sum up my stance:

The creation of Israel was a big mistake.
That said it exists and it should be able to defend itself when rockets come at it.
It will always be getting bombed until they get serious about peace and making life livable for Palestinians.
They can whine all they want about the world's public opinion, I will have no sympathy for that until they crackdown on their religious nuts and settlers.

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Old 11-16-2012, 05:54 PM   #81
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Default Re: Israel's Assassination of Hamas Chief (Video) Raises Tensions on Both Sides of Gaza

Gaza Man Fakes Injury in Israel Strike, BBC video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-qSaHKzDaw

That's just a little side note.

As for the big picture, it's here:
http://melaniephillips.com/pallywood...-being-settled

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Old 11-16-2012, 07:44 PM   #82
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Egypt fires missiles at Israel


We're headed to war boys

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Old 11-16-2012, 08:03 PM   #83
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Default Re: Israel's Assassination of Hamas Chief (Video) Raises Tensions on Both Sides of Gaza

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Egypt fires missiles at Israel


We're headed to war boys

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/...di um=twitter

And I'm sure the Muslim Brotherhood-controlled government will flat out deny any involvement.
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Old 11-17-2012, 06:19 AM   #84
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Egypt fires missiles at Israel


We're headed to war boys

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Egypt and Palestine about to get f*cked up hard
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Old 11-17-2012, 06:26 AM   #85
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Gaza Man Fakes Injury in Israel Strike, BBC video:

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Stern's suspended him for three skirmishes.

You're honestly pretty disgustingly biased Steve.
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Old 11-17-2012, 06:53 AM   #86
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Stern's suspended him for three skirmishes.

You're honestly pretty disgustingly biased Steve.
how is it biased, it's just reality. The palestinean people see international news cameras and start acting like there's a huge crisis and they're all mortally wounded. Hopefully this link will help you people realize you shouldn't fall for the bullshit pro-palestine propaganda that is everywhere.

Do you believe that Israeli date farmers hire palestinian children for 1 pound an hour and dangle them in the air on cranes for 10 hours in the desert sun, not letting them use the toilet? That is the kind of bullshit that is being said in London at the moment, this idiot pro-palestine people believe that is actually happening.
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Default Re: Israel's Assassination of Hamas Chief (Video) Raises Tensions on Both Sides of Gaza

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how is it biased, it's just reality. The palestinean people see international news cameras and start acting like there's a huge crisis and they're all mortally wounded. Hopefully this link will help you people realize you shouldn't fall for the bullshit pro-palestine propaganda that is everywhere.

Do you believe that Israeli date farmers hire palestinian children for 1 pound an hour and dangle them in the air on cranes for 10 hours in the desert sun, not letting them use the toilet? That is the kind of bullshit that is being said in London at the moment, this idiot pro-palestine people believe that is actually happening.
Honestly don't know. I'm not pro-Israeli or pro-Palestenian. I just mean to say that a youtube clip with a jumpcut is nowhere near evidence.
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Old 11-17-2012, 12:45 PM   #88
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Default Re: Israel's Assassination of Hamas Chief (Video) Raises Tensions on Both Sides of Gaza

Did egypt really fire missles to israel?
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Old 11-17-2012, 12:58 PM   #90
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Default Re: Israel's Assassination of Hamas Chief (Video) Raises Tensions on Both Sides of Gaza

Stop shooting rockets and stop building on land that supposed to be negotiated. Why can't the dopes on either side do that?
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