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Old 11-18-2012, 07:01 PM   #181
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Pretty much every 50-50 call went against us.

I'm on this level, but more on a broad platform. I believe the league overall is the most respected in terms of honest, fair and efficient officiating... but i do feel if and when there's those 50/50 calls as you mentioned, the more "profitable" team is in the bonus and ching ching ching outcome.

Perhaps their refs are trained and practiced in those types of outcomes. I'm not saying it's fact, just you see them happen often.

How many times have we seen the Steelers and Pats get more than most calls that could go either way? We all know it exists. That's just professional sports for you... it just happens less in the NFl... but make no mistake about it, it happens.
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Old 11-18-2012, 07:02 PM   #182
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Wouldn't count that money yet. NE pretty bad at protecting big leads.
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Old 11-18-2012, 07:11 PM   #183
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I'm on this level, but more on a broad platform. I believe the league overall is the most respected in terms of honest, fair and efficient officiating... but i do feel if and when there's those 50/50 calls as you mentioned, the more "profitable" team is in the bonus and ching ching ching outcome.

Perhaps their refs are trained and practiced in those types of outcomes. I'm not saying it's fact, just you see them happen often.

How many times have we seen the Steelers and Pats get more than most calls that could go either way? We all know it exists. That's just professional sports for you... it just happens less in the NFl... but make no mistake about it, it happens.
It's the more arbitrary calls like tons of illegal contacts and always getting called for penalties on kick returns. People always remember one or two controversial calls that go one way or the other, but where the officials can have a much greater impact is on those plays that you don't remember quite as vividly after the game is over... They add up.

Starting a drive from the 35 or 40 or from the 10 makes a huge difference for a team in terms of playcalling and obviously just having to travel a shorter distance for a score. And it also kills you in terms of field position if you have to punt. And, I can't stress enough how arbitrary many of those special teams flags are. There is a borderline hold or block in the back on every kick return.

As for illegal contact, sometimes there is something really egregious that deserves to be called, but a lot of stuff gets let go throughout the course of a game, because football is a physical sport and there is always going to be bumping and grabbing.

When a team gets called for the sheer number of illegal contacts as the Browns today... Well, you saw it. Give any offense in the league enough chances and they will eventually make something happen.

Then, there is the stuff that doesn't get called, like clear false starts and intentional grounding.

Like I said, the officials haven't played much of a role in the Browns being a below .500 team. Most of the damage has been done by having an extraordinarily young team, a lot of injuries, an extremely questionable coaching staff, upheaval in the front office, playing in a brutal division, and just not being a very good team.

But, today? Yeah, it got to a point by the 4th or 5th time we were called for a hold on a punt return that it wasn't going to be our day.

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Old 11-18-2012, 07:15 PM   #184
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Why are the Pats trying to run the score up?
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Alright Saints back to .500
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Old 11-18-2012, 07:18 PM   #186
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Alright Saints back to .500

The Saints look like a completely different (better) team under Vitt.
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Why are the Pats trying to run the score up?

Where have you been for the last 7 years?
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The Saints look like a completely different (better) team under Vitt.
Yep, balanced offense. Defense playing more aggressive. Kromer had no real control of the team. He reminded me of when Haslett was coaching. Thank god Vitt is back.
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Old 11-18-2012, 07:21 PM   #189
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But, today? Yeah, it got to a point by the 4th or 5th time we were called for a hold on a punt return that it wasn't going to be our day.

If you want to think logically ... in terms of which team *needed* this win, we know the obvious answer. Did that play into the outcome? Who really knows, but I honestly wouldn't be surprised if there is some type of league conspiracy.

Seems far-fetched and perhaps it is ... but regardless of integrity, credibility and all that jazz, at the end of the day it's about profits, money money money ... and it isn't as obvious as the NBA and David Stern running things, it's sometimes obvious which teams advance and which teams don't.
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Alright Saints back to .500

It's hell being a Raiders fan, but at least our defense has been helping out a number of fantasy quarterbacks and wide receivers and the people smart enough to start them against us.
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Alright Saints back to .500

I know it's not happening... but imagine another rematch from a few years ago... Colts VS Saints in the SB.
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Now, they finally take some starters out...
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Now, they finally take some starters out...

No doubt an assistant did that. He'll be cursed out and the starters put back in for the drive for route 66.
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Von Miller, JJ Watt, Aldon Smith, Ryan Kerrigan, Justin Houston. 2011 Draft had some NASTY passrushers
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The retarded rules are going to take that TD away...

...or not

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