Message Board Basketball Forum - InsideHoops

Go Back   Message Board Basketball Forum - InsideHoops > InsideHoops Main Basketball Forums > NBA Forum

NBA Forum NBA Message Board - NBA Fan Forum

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 11-16-2012, 02:17 AM   #31
brandonislegend
Old School Cool
 
brandonislegend's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 7,888
Default Re: How did the Clippers lose to the likes of Warriors and Cavs at home when...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Clippersfan86
TS%>>>FG%. This is 2012, not 2009.

hahaha players like Kobe shoot low percentages and FG% matters so much omg then when it comes to FG% of a clipper fan "THIS IS 2012" OMG
brandonislegend is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2012, 02:17 AM   #32
Clippersfan86
Banned
 
Clippersfan86's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 23,736
Default Re: How did the Clippers lose to the likes of Warriors and Cavs at home when...

Quote:
Originally Posted by ClutchOver9000
When it comes to older vets, it isn't always about statistical production.

Look at someone like Kidd. Making timely shots, getting crucial steals, knowing when to run and when to pace the offense, defensive stops, getting teammates the right looks etc.

Great players despite their age usually find ways to impact games to the benefit of their teams. Especially those that don't rely too much on athleticism.

Billups is essentially a coach on the floor for the Clippers if I'm not mistaken.

This is the key. With Crawford and more team weapons now Billups can just give a consistent 10-12 points, nothing more and his leadership, poise and ability to draw fouls will be enough. This is the benefit of the Clippers having the best backcourt rotation in the NBA. If Billups isn't doing much you have 20 ppg bench scorer Crawford or defensive terror Bledsoe. Or even once in a while Willie who can bang down a few threes.
Clippersfan86 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2012, 02:19 AM   #33
Clippersfan86
Banned
 
Clippersfan86's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 23,736
Default Re: How did the Clippers lose to the likes of Warriors and Cavs at home when...

Quote:
Originally Posted by brandonislegend
hahaha players like Kobe shoot low percentages and FG% matters so much omg then when it comes to FG% of a clipper fan "THIS IS 2012" OMG

When did I bag on Kobe's field goal percentage? I never have, you must be grouping me with other people that hurt your feelings too. Even if you do look at field goal percentage Kobe's been 45+ most of his career which is very good. Only thing I've dissed is shot selection, which is an entirely different topic.
Clippersfan86 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2012, 02:24 AM   #34
Micku
NBA rookie of the year
 
Micku's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 6,123
Default Re: How did the Clippers lose to the likes of Warriors and Cavs at home when...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Clippersfan86
TS%>>>FG%. This is 2012, not 2009.

eFG is better than TS% imo. TS account FTs, which you cannot defend. It's not on the floor. eFG accounts for the 3, and you can defend that. FG is good because you can see shot selection or just how good the player is at making shots.

As for Billups, almost more than half of his shots are 3 pointers. So, meh.
Micku is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2012, 02:24 AM   #35
All Net
Twitter-@AllNetSports
 
All Net's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 22,735
Default Re: How did the Clippers lose to the likes of Warriors and Cavs at home when...

part of regular season basketball I guess.
All Net is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2012, 02:30 AM   #36
Clippersfan86
Banned
 
Clippersfan86's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 23,736
Default Re: How did the Clippers lose to the likes of Warriors and Cavs at home when...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Micku
eFG is better than TS% imo. TS account FTs, which you cannot defend. It's not on the floor. eFG accounts for the 3, and you can defend that. FG is good because you can see shot selection or just how good the player is at making shots.

As for Billups, almost more than half of his shots are 3 pointers. So, meh.

Fair points. Bottom line though is Chauncey has always been pretty subpar field goal shooting wise and it's never stopped him from being a star. Sure he takes a couple ill advised shots here or there but definitely gives more than he costs the team.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRPV4IftFgg

Here's him dropping 32 last year. Dude still has game.
Clippersfan86 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2012, 02:31 AM   #37
brandonislegend
Old School Cool
 
brandonislegend's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 7,888
Default Re: How did the Clippers lose to the likes of Warriors and Cavs at home when...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Clippersfan86
Fair points. Bottom line though is Chauncey has always been pretty subpar field goal shooting wise and it's never stopped him from being a star. Sure he takes a couple ill advised shots here or there but definitely gives more than he costs the team.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRPV4IftFgg

Here's him dropping 32 last year. Dude still has game.

1 game before a serious injury, good post.
brandonislegend is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2012, 02:31 AM   #38
DaSeba5
Heat|Dolphins|Marlins
 
DaSeba5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
Posts: 9,060
Default Re: How did the Clippers lose to the likes of Warriors and Cavs at home when...

You win some, you lose some. That's why you play the game. Every team is a professional team. If you have a bad night, anyone can beat you.
DaSeba5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2012, 02:42 AM   #39
Droid101
7-time NBA All-Star
 
Droid101's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: SoCal
Posts: 12,077
Default Re: How did the Clippers lose to the likes of Warriors and Cavs at home when...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Clippersfan86
I don't think you understand who Willie Green is. Even if Billups returns at just 75 percent he will be better than Green is by quite a bit. Hill is still a top notch defender who will make a huge difference off the bench.
Willie Green is one of the worst SG's in the league without question.
Droid101 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2012, 02:48 AM   #40
Clippersfan86
Banned
 
Clippersfan86's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 23,736
Default Re: How did the Clippers lose to the likes of Warriors and Cavs at home when...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Droid101
Willie Green is one of the worst SG's in the league without question.

If not THE worst. Dude is shooting the 3 okay but does NOTHING else. Can't make plays, can't play D.. can't rebound. He also has a bunch of boneheaded turnovers at costly times.
Clippersfan86 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2012, 03:29 AM   #41
RRR3
For threeeeee!!!
 
RRR3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Oregon
Posts: 16,058
Default Re: How did the Clippers lose to the likes of Warriors and Cavs at home when...

Quote:
Originally Posted by brandonislegend
1 game before a serious injury, good post.
What is that supposed to even mean? So having a great game doesn't count if you get injured shortly afterwards?
RRR3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2012, 03:32 AM   #42
brandonislegend
Old School Cool
 
brandonislegend's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 7,888
Default Re: How did the Clippers lose to the likes of Warriors and Cavs at home when...

Quote:
Originally Posted by RRR3
What is that supposed to even mean? So having a great game doesn't count if you get injured shortly afterwards?

That most people at the age of 35 that tear their Achilles aren't anything close to what they were before.
brandonislegend is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2012, 03:36 AM   #43
Clippersfan86
Banned
 
Clippersfan86's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 23,736
Default Re: How did the Clippers lose to the likes of Warriors and Cavs at home when...

Quote:
Originally Posted by brandonislegend
That most people at the age of 35 that tear their Achilles aren't anything close to what they were before.

You don't see why it's less noteworthy for a player who's already become slow as shit and has never been a great athlete anyways? Most of Billups damage comes from 3's off screens or posting up smaller guards nowadays. Torn Achilles would affect those things why? Tons of NBA players played in our practice facility this summer and multiple said Billups looked amazing.

He's a good shooter, good passer, guy to can draw free throws and play scrappy D. As I said you can do all of those while being a step slow and unathletic (he's done it for years!).
Clippersfan86 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2012, 05:20 AM   #44
PyrrhusX
GOATbrook >>>
 
PyrrhusX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 1,855
Default Re: How did the Clippers lose to the likes of Warriors and Cavs at home when...

Clippers v Grizz, best rivalry on ish
Brandon/ncrizzle v cf86
PyrrhusX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2012, 06:54 AM   #45
All Net
Twitter-@AllNetSports
 
All Net's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 22,735
Default Re: How did the Clippers lose to the likes of Warriors and Cavs at home when...

When is Grant Hill and Chauncey back? You forget they have an amazing bench without those two.
All Net is offline   Reply With Quote
This NBA Basketball News Website Sponsored by:
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:34 AM.




NBA Basketball Forum Key Links:
InsideHoops Home
NBA Rumors
Basketball Blog
NBA Daily Recaps
NBA Videos
Fantasy Basketball
NBA Mock Draft
NBA Free Agents
All-Star Weekend
---
High School Basketball
Streetball
---
InsideHoops Twitter
Search Our Site













Powered by vBulletin Version 3.5.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. Terms of Use/Service | Privacy Policy