Message Board Basketball Forum - InsideHoops

Go Back   Message Board Basketball Forum - InsideHoops > InsideHoops Main Basketball Forums > NBA Forum

NBA Forum NBA Message Board - NBA Fan Forum

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 11-16-2012, 12:56 PM   #16
Godzuki
3-time NBA All-Star
 
Godzuki's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 10,433
Godzuki has decent reputationGodzuki has decent reputation
Default Re: D Antoni: One of the least efficient plays in basketball is just the straight post-up

Quote:
Originally Posted by Clutch
It's the truth. Toney Douglas was our starting point guard and D'Antoni expected him to play like Steve Nash. When he saw that he can't then he tried to make Melo his point guard.

If you don't believe me go to ESPN or some other basketball site and read some old articles. You'll surely see what I'm talking about.


wtf did you want him to do? incorporate the triangle or the princeton? thats his system....
Godzuki is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2012, 12:58 PM   #17
IGOTGAME
NBA All-star
 
IGOTGAME's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 9,515
IGOTGAME has a near all-star reputation hereIGOTGAME has a near all-star reputation hereIGOTGAME has a near all-star reputation hereIGOTGAME has a near all-star reputation hereIGOTGAME has a near all-star reputation hereIGOTGAME has a near all-star reputation here
Default Re: D Antoni: One of the least efficient plays in basketball is just the straight post-up

Quote:
Originally Posted by Godzuki
wtf did you want him to do? incorporate the triangle or the princeton? thats his system....
You have to be able to maximize your teams strengths.
IGOTGAME is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2012, 12:58 PM   #18
Clutch
Stop flopping
 
Clutch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: MSG
Posts: 16,329
Clutch is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableClutch is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableClutch is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableClutch is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableClutch is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableClutch is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableClutch is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableClutch is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableClutch is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableClutch is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableClutch is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginable
Default Re: D Antoni: One of the least efficient plays in basketball is just the straight post-up

Quote:
Originally Posted by Godzuki
wtf did you want him to do? incorporate the triangle or the princeton? thats his system....
Adjust his system to the players he had.

D'Antoni is an extremely stubborn coach. He would rather die than change something he believes into even if he doesn't have success with it.
Clutch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2012, 12:59 PM   #19
Chrono90
Local High School Star
 
Chrono90's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 1,396
Chrono90 is starting to rub some people the wrong way
Default Re: D Antoni: One of the least efficient plays in basketball is just the straight post-up

Quote:
Originally Posted by Godzuki
dwight and Pau have been pretty bad in the post tho. Pau is a hot/cold short J waiting to happen, and Dwight has either been getting collapsed on picked or fouled, altho he's somehow made a lot of his ugly ass post shots.

That's true though. Gasol has been struggling but Kobe is still good and Dwight was decent before the surgery. I just hope D'Antoni doesn't completely forget the post play when you have those post players.
Chrono90 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2012, 01:01 PM   #20
DuMa
Canned
 
DuMa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 32,335
DuMa has a terrific reputationDuMa has a terrific reputationDuMa has a terrific reputationDuMa has a terrific reputationDuMa has a terrific reputation
Default Re: D Antoni: One of the least efficient plays in basketball is just the straight post-up

DuMa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2012, 01:01 PM   #21
swi7ch
Banned
 
swi7ch's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 4,457
swi7ch has not been impressing people
Default Re: D Antoni: One of the least efficient plays in basketball is just the straight post-up

150 PPG here we come!
swi7ch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2012, 01:01 PM   #22
Godzuki
3-time NBA All-Star
 
Godzuki's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 10,433
Godzuki has decent reputationGodzuki has decent reputation
Default Re: D Antoni: One of the least efficient plays in basketball is just the straight post-up

Quote:
Originally Posted by Clutch
If you play Princeton/Triangle offense - Nash not used the right way
If you play D'Antoni's offense - Kobe,Gasol and Dwight not used the right way

Pick your poison


how does that make sense? his system is pick n roll's which can be with any of those players, and running which should free every player up with more lanes every time down the court. this halfcourt crap where all the Lakers take are short J's because the middle is so crowded is whats dumb. or passing it around from the post living and dying by Gasol's hot/cold short J's and passing to Artest to shoot because he's always the open man. at least D Antoni will get the balls into the hands of his stars to win their matchups and have more lanes to get theirs.

i mean the Lakers are real lucky Kobe has been burying those deep J's with hands in his face this year. he should have a lot more open shots without playing against a constantly set defense.

and ideally they should have less TO's with less constant passing from every player in/around the post.

Last edited by Godzuki : 11-16-2012 at 01:04 PM.
Godzuki is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2012, 01:02 PM   #23
Chrono90
Local High School Star
 
Chrono90's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 1,396
Chrono90 is starting to rub some people the wrong way
Default Re: D Antoni: One of the least efficient plays in basketball is just the straight post-up

Quote:
Originally Posted by Godzuki
wtf did you want him to do? incorporate the triangle or the princeton? thats his system....

That's my point of wondering why did the Lakers get him the begin with...

He's a run and gun/ pick and roll/ play less D and more Offense team.
But, Lakers player on the other hand, is not those type of players.

Maybe they hate Phil Jackson that much to hire Mike just to diss Phil?
Chrono90 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2012, 01:04 PM   #24
rodman91
Bulls
 
rodman91's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 4,240
rodman91 has a terrific reputationrodman91 has a terrific reputationrodman91 has a terrific reputationrodman91 has a terrific reputationrodman91 has a terrific reputation
Default Re: D Antoni: One of the least efficient plays in basketball is just the straight post-up

Lakers is thinking about future. Howard is their future. Kobe & Gasol is past. Like Celtics is become Rondo's team instead of the original big three, they are counting on Howard right now.
rodman91 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2012, 01:06 PM   #25
Godzuki
3-time NBA All-Star
 
Godzuki's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 10,433
Godzuki has decent reputationGodzuki has decent reputation
Default Re: D Antoni: One of the least efficient plays in basketball is just the straight post-up

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrono90
That's my point of wondering why did the Lakers get him the begin with...

He's a run and gun/ pick and roll/ play less D and more Offense team.
But, Lakers player on the other hand, is not those type of players.

Maybe they hate Phil Jackson that much to hire Mike just to diss Phil?


personally i think Phil would've failed with this team, he would've been very similar to the Princeton in terms of their issues. even tho its hard to argue with his track record despite always having dominating talent, i think Phil is quite overrated mainly because people think he can win from his coaching in itself.
Godzuki is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2012, 01:08 PM   #26
Rubio2Gasol
College star
 
Rubio2Gasol's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 3,933
Rubio2Gasol has decent reputation
Default Re: D Antoni: One of the least efficient plays in basketball is just the straight post-up

Quote:
Originally Posted by rodman91
Lakers is thinking about future. Howard is their future. Kobe & Gasol is past. Like Celtics is become Rondo's team instead of the original big three, they are counting on Howard right now.

I don't think it's that.

The idea they're running with is that to get everyone the necessary touches you need a higher tempo.
Rubio2Gasol is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2012, 01:13 PM   #27
Chrono90
Local High School Star
 
Chrono90's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 1,396
Chrono90 is starting to rub some people the wrong way
Default Re: D Antoni: One of the least efficient plays in basketball is just the straight post-up

Either way this is all good for business cause it's creating drama.

1) D'Antoni gets to give a payback to the Knicks on Christmas. He must hate those players on that team for tanking and kicking him out. It's going to be a great game every time Knicks play Lakers.

2) Phil is going to come back and he's going to try to take out the Lakers for dissing him like this. Phil, with his resume and legacy, will not want to leave his career being swept in the playoffs. He's going to come back.

This is going to be fun.
Chrono90 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2012, 01:23 PM   #28
crisoner
10 plus years on ISH
 
crisoner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Californications
Posts: 12,460
crisoner is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablecrisoner is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablecrisoner is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablecrisoner is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablecrisoner is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablecrisoner is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablecrisoner is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablecrisoner is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablecrisoner is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablecrisoner is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablecrisoner is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginable
Default Re: D Antoni: One of the least efficient plays in basketball is just the straight post-up

Won 5 titles with the boring post up game. What's your point?
crisoner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2012, 01:24 PM   #29
Darius
Good college starter
 
Darius's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Handsome Man
Posts: 3,058
Darius is considered somewhat coolDarius is considered somewhat coolDarius is considered somewhat cool
Default Re: D Antoni: One of the least efficient plays in basketball is just the straight post-up

I love slowly watching the Laker fans who hated on this move changing their tune as homer-vision kicks in.
Darius is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2012, 01:25 PM   #30
MightyWhitey
Local High School Star
 
MightyWhitey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: nYc
Posts: 1,144
MightyWhitey has decent reputationMightyWhitey has decent reputation
Default Re: D Antoni: One of the least efficient plays in basketball is just the straight post-up

Something no one mentioned thus far is that in a D'Antoni system there is no defense. One more time so everyone understands. In a D'Antoni system THERE IS NO DEFENSE!!!

The Lakers are done for. Dwight and Kobe are going to get rid of this coach. Mark my words. Dwight will never again win defensive player of the year now that pringles squirmed back into the NBA. I want Laker fans to know the absolute ridicule the Knicks went through for years because of D'Antoni and his failed system. You will go through this exact ridicule now.
MightyWhitey is offline   Reply With Quote
This NBA Basketball News Website Sponsored by:
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:27 AM.




NBA Basketball Forum Key Links:
InsideHoops Home
NBA Rumors
Basketball Blog
NBA Daily Recaps
NBA Videos
Fantasy Basketball
NBA Mock Draft
NBA Free Agents
All-Star Weekend
---
High School Basketball
Streetball
---
InsideHoops Twitter
Search Our Site















Powered by vBulletin Version 3.5.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. Terms of Use/Service | Privacy Policy