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Old 11-22-2012, 02:49 AM   #1
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Default GOAT Full Court and Half Court players? Players who excelled in both styles of play?

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Old 11-22-2012, 02:56 AM   #2
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MJ, case closed.
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well, who are your #2 guys?
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well, who are your #2 guys?
Magic?

I like somebody like Worthy and Barkley as well.
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Old 11-22-2012, 03:48 AM   #5
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In the full/open court, my top 3 is:
1. Magic
Nobody rivals him in terms of passing on the fast break, with his crazy no looks. He was both fast and quick, great court vision and an awesome finisher as well. It helped that he had some great guys running with him.
2. LeBron
Second to only Magic in my opinion. He is crazy fast on the break and steamrolls through anything. Impossible to stop when he's going full speed to the basket. He has great court vision as well.
3. Pippen
Very creative finisher, who could change speed and direction easily. Great finisher and passer and with his length and athleticism, he was scary. It was either Pip or MJ at 3 for me.


Half court is tough to rank, it depends on whether you go with bigs or guards..
You have players like MJ, Kobe, Bird who were able to destroy a defense from both inside as well as from the perimiter, with their passing, ball handling and shooting and players like TD, Shaq, Kareem, Wilt who were destructive in the post. Russell deserves mention because the whole offense seemed to run through him from the post/high block. Great passing, team play and also scoring from tim to time.

MJ was the best when it came to both full and half court/overall game in my opinion. He could ruin a defense in half court and run the floor as well as anybody.
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In the full/open court, my top 3 is:
1. Magic
Nobody rivals him in terms of passing on the fast break, with his crazy no looks. He was both fast and quick, great court vision and an awesome finisher as well. It helped that he had some great guys running with him.
2. LeBron
Second to only Magic in my opinion. He is crazy fast on the break and steamrolls through anything. Impossible to stop when he's going full speed to the basket. He has great court vision as well.
3. Pippen
Very creative finisher, who could change speed and direction easily. Great finisher and passer and with his length and athleticism, he was scary. It was either Pip or MJ at 3 for me.


Half court is tough to rank, it depends on whether you go with bigs or guards..
You have players like MJ, Kobe, Bird who were able to destroy a defense from both inside as well as from the perimiter, with their passing, ball handling and shooting and players like TD, Shaq, Kareem, Wilt who were destructive in the post. Russell deserves mention because the whole offense seemed to run through him from the post/high block. Great passing, team play and also scoring from tim to time.

MJ was the best when it came to both full and half court/overall game in my opinion. He could ruin a defense in half court and run the floor as well as anybody.

Your full-court list would be identical to mine man. Great picks
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Old 11-22-2012, 11:05 AM   #8
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Default Re: GOAT Full Court and Half Court players? Players who excelled in both styles of play?

As far as ability to play elite level transition, full court press, or whatever?
John Havlicek, David Thompson, Walt Frazier, Logo would be some earlier guys

I saw the Celtics run non-stop in the Garden for half a quarter and I mean non-stop. That is the most amazing team effort I have ever seen and it was led not by Russell but by Sam Jones
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Old 11-22-2012, 11:12 AM   #9
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Full Court: Lebron/Magic
Half Court: Jordan/Bird
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I think jason kidd deserves a mention not GOAT tho.
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Old 11-22-2012, 12:38 PM   #11
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Default Re: GOAT Full Court and Half Court players? Players who excelled in both styles of play?

It's like "which naturally gifted perimeter player has/had the best fundamentals".
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Your full-court list would be identical to mine man. Great picks

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Bron and no Chuck? or even Malone?

Bron's post game is just starting to develop, he has no mid range game either. He's explosive when he gets a step and gets rolling but that's about it.

Both Chuck and Malone can post, hit the mid, explode if given space, and can do some damage on the break.

Same thing can be said about Worthy over Bron.
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larry bird was one of the best outlet passer on fast breaks ever, his half court ability needs no explaination.
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Lebron full court: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAj0HtXvlzk
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