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Old 11-27-2012, 02:29 PM   #1
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I'm sorry but I doubt it. Superman/Clark Kent are just vanilla characters. SMH at Lois Lane not recognizing Kent as Superman because of a pair of glasses

Superman=most boring superhero of all time.

If Nolan makes Man Of Steel interesting, he'll go down as a GOAT director in my book
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Old 11-27-2012, 02:32 PM   #2
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Superman is alright w/ me. Obviously not as good as Batman -- but Nolan is producing this film. There is simply no way he ****s this up.
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Default Re: Can Nolan make Superman not boring?

Looks like he's on the verge of delivering the first logical re-invention / re-imagining of the character for a contemporary audience.

He will treat the material seriously like he did BEGINS, TDK, RISES ... and judging from the teaser alone it will be a more heady and psychological approach.

Not fun and tongue in cheek like Donner. It will fit the times. Plus, the cast is AMAZING just like his Batman trilogy.

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I'm totally excited. You should try reading a graphic novel called "Birthright" it's contemporary vision of Superman, and it's amazing. He's not some bland boy scout either, while he's unstoppable physically ... he has battles within himself that relate him to the audience.

Man of Steel will probably work the same way. Hopefully. Nolan / Goyer producing and outlined the story ...

w/ Snyder (300 and Watchmen) on the visuals. Impressive.
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I expect the movie to be enjoyable. Its the perfect project for Nolan since Superman is a boring character, which allows him to put more of his own spin on things.
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Default Re: Can Nolan make Superman not boring?

The thing that gets me is that Superman is just way too powerful and the only thing that fvcks him up is kryptonite, yet his enemies always have a stash laying around without ever explaining how the fvck they came up with debris from a planet that was destroyed many galaxies away
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I'm sorry but I doubt it. Superman/Clark Kent are just vanilla characters. SMH at Lois Lane not recognizing Kent as Superman because of a pair of glasses

Superman=most boring superhero of all time.

If Nolan makes Man Of Steel interesting, he'll go down as a GOAT director in my book
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The thing that gets me is that Superman is just way too powerful and the only thing that fvcks him up is kryptonite
Superman's issues in order to relate to the audience should be internal.

Identity issues, using his extreme abilities for right or wrong, etc.

There are other enemies besides Lex Luthor and the use of kryptonite. There are Superman villains that can challenge him physically. There are plots that push Superman to the limit without the use of kryptonite. I'm going to chalk this statement up to ignorance of the source material.

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For me this is the hardest part of the mythology to swallow. Even more difficult then him being a Moses like alien character from planet "Krypton"

Wonder how this will be addressed. It's easily the biggest aspect needed for suspension of disbelief within the material. For me at least.
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I'd be impressed if a guy becomes known as the GOAT director for a movie he produces.
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Default Re: Can Nolan make Superman not boring?

Well remember Nolan is just producing this one. It's being directed Zack Snyder.

Now Nolan does have a ton of creative input I'm sure, producers always do, but Snyder is going to have the final say in visual direction.

And Snyder has done some good things... and some bad things as a director, but from a visual perspective he is really really good.

But Superman has proven to be incredibly difficult to get right on the big screen.
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Old 11-27-2012, 03:16 PM   #10
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Default Re: Can Nolan make Superman not boring?

even though it's not a superman movie

Unbreakable kind of treads on what I would want from a superman origins film. It's a different take on the superhero mythos
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Default Re: Can Nolan make Superman not boring?

Superman( the movies at least, I haven't kept up with his comics in years so I can't say how he's portrayed now) has always been seen as 100% virtuous and practically free of character flaws. I'd like to see an interpretation that deals with an internal conflict, like using his powers for good or evil, or perhaps he makes a bad 'human' decision and out of tragedy recognizes the need to use his powers for good. He was raised as a human so for all purposes he should exhibit many of the character 'flaws' that define humans. Ultimately he chooses to take the right course because he recognizes that he's in a position to rule the world if he so chooses, but instead decided to act as its savior. Humanize the character, is what I'm saying.

I have a feeling, based off the tidbits of info I've read and teaser trailers I've seen, that this is the direction Nolan is taking the character, which I see as a good thing. It's possible to stay true to the character while modernizing him for today's audience.

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Old 11-27-2012, 03:55 PM   #12
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Who was casted as Lois Lane, if this is going to be another terrible film(let's hope nolan comes through) Lois better have a nice.rack. I wona see some big t!tties. Then they have clarks point of view be slow motion of lois's juggs moving up and down and maybe some of that special vision of his for a nipple or two
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even though it's not a superman movie

Unbreakable kind of treads on what I would want from a superman origins film. It's a different take on the superhero mythos

I always wanted a continuation of Unbreakable. My favorite M. Night movie easily.
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Btw, I love the title of this article: http://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie-...222100414.html

The suit somehow looks more weird without the underwear.
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So you guys essentially want Superman to just be a copy of Batman?
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