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Old 11-29-2012, 12:09 AM   #16
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Default Re: Ama're Stoudemire Accepts Sixth Man Role

There is no room for Amare on that team. Chandler is the guy who catches lobs, and Carmelo is the guy who hits midrange Js and creates in the post.

He needs to play enough to show that he can still put up 25ppg. And then traded. Not given away, mind you, but traded for solid pieces.

If the Knicks can get the right deal for him, they could be real contenders, as opposed to whatever they are now.
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Old 11-29-2012, 12:37 AM   #17
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There is no room for Amare on that team. Chandler is the guy who catches lobs, and Carmelo is the guy who hits midrange Js and creates in the post.

He needs to play enough to show that he can still put up 25ppg. And then traded. Not given away, mind you, but traded for solid pieces.

If the Knicks can get the right deal for him, they could be real contenders, as opposed to whatever they are now.


The right deal for Amare is a guy like Amare. They have everything. Their roster is built perfectly to compliment both Melo and Amare and Tyson. What are they going to trade him for a 2 guard? They're already extremely deep there....PG? They've got great value there with Raymond and Kidd for 3 mil each, and you won't get equal value for Amare in a trade for a pg upgrade (Or the other team wouldn't if they tried to get him). That leaves frontcourt, where they'd run into the same problem. If they did trade him for a big, it would need to be a big that can space the floor, and I doubt any of them could do it better than Amare. It would be one thing, if the team had no depth, but they are among the deepest teams in the league even without 2 starters playing this season.


The Knicks weaknesses of over reliance on the jumpshot, and rebounding get cured when you bring back Amare. So will the over reliance on Carmelo. All of their close games end up with him playing too many minutes, because he's the only player that can really have the offense run through him.

It will be nice when he comes back, so all the speculation can just be put to rest. I fully expect for him to start still, and just have his minutes staggered.

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The right deal for Amare is a guy like Amare. They have everything. Their roster is built perfectly to compliment both Melo and Amare and Tyson. What are they going to trade him for a 2 guard? They're already extremely deep there....PG? They've got great value there with Raymond and Kidd for 3 mil each, and you won't get equal value for Amare in a trade for a pg upgrade (Or the other team wouldn't if they tried to get him). That leaves frontcourt, where they'd run into the same problem. If they did trade him for a big, it would need to be a big that can space the floor, and I doubt any of them could do it better than Amare. It would be one thing, if the team had no depth, but they are among the deepest teams in the league even without 2 starters playing this season.


The Knicks weaknesses of over reliance on the jumpshot, and rebounding get cured when you bring back Amare. So will the over reliance on Carmelo. All of their close games end up with him playing too many minutes, because he's the only player that can really have the offense run through him.

It will be nice when he comes back, so all the speculation can just be put to rest. I fully expect for him to start still, and just have his minutes staggered.
Exactly, expect STAT to play a good chunk of his minutes next to Sheed or Camby. Both can hit the mid range J and Sheed's range is even further than that. Both of those will pick up the rebounding and defensive slack, however Amare gets more boards than Melo.

Amare & Felton PnR all day, with Sheed waiting for the open 3 or Camby with the mid range jumper
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If Amare plays like he did last year once Woodson took over on defense, well hopefully better with the training camp, then I think that the best lineup in the NBA (currently Felton/Kidd/JR/Melo/Tyson) will replace Tyson with Amare. With that guard play and the way Melo/JR/Kidd/Felton are playing defense, adding Amare into that offense will be scary. Amare with 4 strong passers, shooters, and defenders back in his most productive position at Center (where he's actually better defensively).
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When Amare recognizes defense is a part of the game, then make a thread.
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Old 11-29-2012, 01:12 AM   #21
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The Knicks do not need to trade Amare for a guy who can space the floor.


The reason Amare and Melo is not a matter of play styles...they just do not fit.
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2nd unit:

Kidd
JR(after Shump returns)
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Camby

Looks good on paper.
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I don't get keeping both PGs in the starting lineup. You want at least one of them with Amar'e.
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Fixed. Come to think of it, according to a Knicks fan the Knicks win title every year. The fact that other teams such as Lakers and Heat have won in recent seasons is just an illusion, it happens in an alternative universe.
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I don't get keeping both PGs in the starting lineup. You want at least one of them with Amar'e.

Kidd can't even penetrate. Prigioni and JR will do fine running the pnr with Amare off the bench. Sheed and Novak can space the floor.
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What is amare's timetable?
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bout a month
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bout a month

Probably 3 weeks. Might be back mid-December. He had a 6 week timetable.
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The Knicks do not need to trade Amare for a guy who can space the floor.


The reason Amare and Melo is not a matter of play styles...they just do not fit.


What does that even mean?
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What does that even mean?
Haha I was wondering the same thing. They do not fit because of their play styles.
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