Originally Posted by andgar923
I agree, and I know it seems as tho some of us are knocking him (I'm not), but when all he does is focus on rebounding his numbers are gonna be higher than somebody that's asked to do other things offensively.
Yes setting screens matter, but after that he positions to 'rebound' and nothing else. When other players set screens, they set them to possibly get the ball to shoot. We've seen Rodman pad his rebounding at least once every single game (often more). Not to say he wouldn't be a great rebounder or that he wasn't, but his stats are somewhat misleading.
There's no doubt that the Bulls don't win without his contributions, I don't think anybody has argued that (not to say you said it). But he wasn't the defensive juggernaut that he was when he was a Piston, and he never LOCKED DOWN anybody like some have even stated.
Question...who...and I mean ever..."locks down" bigtime scorers who are bigmen?
Maybe Wilt when he was really up for a matchup?
Lets say from 75-now. Who ever just...locked down the Shaqs, Malones, Barkleys, Robinsons, Mchales, and so on?
Rodman(like a few others) got as close as can be expected but he didnt stop them...and it wasnt expected. A great one on one defender in the frontcourt isnt supposed to harrass a guy into a 6-19 shooting night like say...Gary Payton might to a point guard.
Rodman was the NBA version of a great man to man corner in the NFL. Hes not great because he can keep an all time great from a catch. Hes great because he can guard an all time great by himself and not allow that players presence to benefit his teammates as much as usual.
Hes not gonna stop Shaq. Or Malone. Or Barkley. Hes gonna get up for the matchup and guard them hard and get in their heads and kick and brawl and whatever he has to do. But he makes it personal. And that is the key.
When you dont have to collapse into the paint to keep a guy from dropping 40 he has to beat you himself because his teammates arent used to picking up the slack when they arent getting the open looks generated by having to rotate after a double team.
Karl can drop 40...Dennis can hold him to 20...or less. hes done both. But Dennis will not need help. If Karl drops 40 its a "Nothing you can do" 40. A jumper 40. A "Well...if hes gonna make that...." 40. Not a abusing the defender for easy looks 40.
And there is a difference.
Dennis did exactly what he was supposed to do. Not just...shut a guy down. That would be nice....but bigmen arent really shut down. They are bothered. And their impact can be minimized. He did both at an all time great level.