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Old 11-30-2012, 05:08 PM   #91
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I'm not sure if it's been mentioned yet, but one of Rodman's many intangibles was his ability to get the home crowd into a game.
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Old 11-30-2012, 05:11 PM   #92
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I'm not sure if it's been mentioned yet, but one of Rodman's many intangibles was his ability to get the home crowd into a game.

Code name for 'role player'
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Old 11-30-2012, 05:18 PM   #93
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that's the whole point. you don't shut down a great player who plays 8 feet from the basket. You just bother him.

I was disagreeing with the person you quoted. I should have made that more clear.
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Old 11-30-2012, 05:24 PM   #94
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Code name for 'role player'

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Old 11-30-2012, 05:25 PM   #95
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It' for the same reason that you and other Kobe fans slight Shaq/Gasol/Odom. They're trying to push an agenda.


- How do I slight those guys?.....because I responded in the countless threads of " Shaq , Gasol etc. etc. carried Kobe...without ____________ (fill in random player) Kobe can't win"

- it was mainly tongue in cheek comments.....posted in the "Kobe slighting day of the week" threads

- When I create my own threads that are "hater proof".....you will see I talk real basketball and always rep each of the players and thier impact.

- I already created the greatest Shaq thread and recognized his greatness.....it's only when the basketball illiterate speak that I go full retard mode.


deal wit it.
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Old 11-30-2012, 05:26 PM   #96
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Code name for 'role player'


Rodman = 96' Finals co FMVP.
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Old 11-30-2012, 05:30 PM   #97
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One of my favorite Rodman on Shaq moments http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg3BiOw4TWo#t=08m20s

for 95% of defenders, that would have been dunk or dunk-and-1.
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Old 11-30-2012, 05:38 PM   #98
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that was beautiful. The black tornado got him that time but even if you win you don't win. Just grab him and piss him off
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Default Re: Dennis Rodman on the 2nd three-peat Bulls was so overrated

1996 Shawn Kemp and 1998 Karl Malone put up quality numbers againts Rodman in the Finals. Rodman was the Bulls 3rd best defender from 1996-1998.
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Old 11-30-2012, 05:53 PM   #100
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One of my favorite Rodman on Shaq moments http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg3BiOw4TWo#t=08m20s

for 95% of defenders, that would have been dunk or dunk-and-1.

that whole clip is just destruction of the crap idea of this thread.

D Rod overpowered Shaquille O'Neal in every basketball term.
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Old 11-30-2012, 05:58 PM   #101
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One of my favorite Rodman on Shaq moments http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg3BiOw4TWo#t=08m20s

for 95% of defenders, that would have been dunk or dunk-and-1.

I know this is a Rodman thread but how is it humanly possible for a 7-1, 330 pound person to spin like that?
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Old 11-30-2012, 06:42 PM   #102
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He's arguably the greatest role player ever, but that doesn't mean he wasn't a role player.
Who says you can't be a superstar without being a scorer?

Was Ben Wallace a role player?

No.

Rodman was a star. He was a game-changer. He stuck out much more, and did much more for a team, than a guy like Joe Johnson who can be the #1 offensive option on a good team.

Would you rather have Rodman or a "generic" all-star type wing player like Rudy Gay or Joe Johnson or Danny Granger?

Those guys are a dime a dozen. Every team has one or two. But there aren't any Rodmans that I know of. There are poor man's Rodmans, like Reggie Evans, but that's not the same thing. There are thinking man's Rodmans, like Shane Battier, but that's not the same thing either. Rodman getting 20 boards does more for the team intangibly than Battier hitting 6 open 3s.

When I watch 90s Bulls games - which I will admit I was not there for that run, and have seen only a few - Rodman's personality and presence sticks out nearly as much as Pippen's. He was clearly #3, but he was much bigger than Ron Harper, and nobody would create a screen name today JordanPippenEvans.

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Old 11-30-2012, 07:03 PM   #103
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A lot of Rodman's influence can not be found in the stat sheet. His presence at the end of games and in crucial situations was pretty impactful from what I remember. It was WHEN he got a big rebound and WHEN he made a great defensive play for the Bulls that mattered more than stats.
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Old 12-01-2012, 03:58 AM   #104
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Going by that definition, no one in the history of the game is a lock-down defender, not even Russell.

Wilt had plenty of huge games against Russell, as did Kareem against Wilt.

this.

there is no lock-down defender in the nba, because the quality of offense is too high. all the paytons, pippens, rodmans... will get scored on.
it's not like at your local gym where a half decent player will "lock down" a total scrub.
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Old 12-01-2012, 05:31 AM   #105
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He also brought impactful intangibles, which you wont see on the statsheet...
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