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12-05-2012, 09:52 PM   #16
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Re: How Kobe stacks up vs other 30000 point scorers

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 Originally Posted by K.Koscik You're criticizing him because he is less efficient then two of the three greatest centers of all time, the greatest scoring PF of all time (who played with an excellent passing guard), and the most efficient scoring guard in the history of the NBA. OK

Anything for his god Kevin Durant.

12-05-2012, 09:52 PM   #17
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Re: How Kobe stacks up vs other 30000 point scorers

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 Originally Posted by c3z4r How did you calculate this???

30000-current total points scored=x. Then I calculated how many FGA they would need to reach x based on their efficiency from the previous 4 seasons. Durant's is likely over calculated based on his play from the the past 2 seasons as his efficiency appears to continue going up.

12-05-2012, 09:53 PM   #18
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Re: How Kobe stacks up vs other 30000 point scorers

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 Originally Posted by c3z4r How did you calculate this???

it's not a hard thing to calculate. all you need is their total points scored and their field goals attempted.

but don't follow what he told you, he just wanted to make it sound complicated. literally all you need to do is this:

total field goals attempted divided by total points gives you shots per point. multiply that by 30000. there ya go.

you can also reverse it and go with total points divided by field goals attempted to get points per shot. then divide that number into 30000

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 12-05-2012, 09:53 PM #19 pejavelin Learning to shoot layups   Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 84 Re: How Kobe stacks up vs other 30000 point scorers DUMB THREAD because historically S Guards have better FG% than Centers and pf. hes not too far from mj in fga and mj was a beast. just being in that group is an honor.
12-05-2012, 09:55 PM   #20
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Re: How Kobe stacks up vs other 30000 point scorers

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 Originally Posted by Yao Ming's Foot The actual relevant comparison... Kobe Bryant 34-104 Wilt Chamberlain 35-179 Karl Malone 36-189 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 36-217 Michael Jordan 38-321 #YOUNGESTTO30K

Do that list but with how many years in the league each player had

12-05-2012, 09:56 PM   #21
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Re: How Kobe stacks up vs other 30000 point scorers

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 Originally Posted by Yao Ming's Foot The actual relevant comparison... Kobe Bryant 34-104 Wilt Chamberlain 35-179 Karl Malone 36-189 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 36-217 Michael Jordan 38-321 #YOUNGESTTO30K

Durant's on pace to do it he's 32

 12-05-2012, 09:58 PM #22 TheeBeast Local High School Star     Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,251 Re: How Kobe stacks up vs other 30000 point scorers Kobe is a 6'6 SG and you're comparing his fg attempts to three bigmen (two being 7foot GOAT centers) and the GOAT himself.
12-05-2012, 09:58 PM   #23
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Re: How Kobe stacks up vs other 30000 point scorers

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 Originally Posted by DStebb716 it's not a hard thing to calculate. all you need is their total points scored and their field goals attempted.
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 Originally Posted by 28renyoy 30000-current total points scored=x. Then I calculated how many FGA they would need to reach x based on their efficiency from the previous 4 seasons. Durant's is likely over calculated based on his play from the the past 2 seasons as his efficiency appears to continue going up.

I find this to be very flawed because you don't factor in 3pointers, which are included into FGA, and free-throw attempts, which don't count as a FGA. I mean, for example, Lebron is currently shooting a career low free-throws, so if this trend continues he'll have to take more FGA to compensate for the lack of free-throws points.

Edit: I wasn't asking because I don't know how to calculate, but rather because a simple calculation won't do.

12-05-2012, 09:59 PM   #24
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Re: How Kobe stacks up vs other 30000 point scorers

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 Originally Posted by DStebb716 it's not a hard thing to calculate. all you need is their total points scored and their field goals attempted. but don't follow what he told you, he just wanted to make it sound complicated. literally all you need to do is this: total field goals attempted divided by total points gives you shots per point. multiply that by 30000. there ya go. you can also reverse it and go with total points divided by field goals attempted to get points per shot. then divide that number into 30000

Nope. I took out their poor efficiency/scoring numbers from early on in their career's. The players they are today will effect how soon they reach 30k, not the players they were when they were rookies.

For instance: Over the past 5 years, LeBron has had an average TS% of 59.2. For his career, he's at 56.8%. This season he's at 58.7%.

Recent trends>>>>Total

12-05-2012, 10:01 PM   #25
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Re: How Kobe stacks up vs other 30000 point scorers

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 Originally Posted by 28renyoy Durant's on pace to do it he's 32

The greatest trick Kobe ever pulled was making his longevity look easy. The large majority of players dont stay this good this long.

 12-05-2012, 10:02 PM #26 DStebb716 Phil of the Future     Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 6,023 Re: How Kobe stacks up vs other 30000 point scorers PS- His Michael Jordan number is false. It took MJ 22,956 shots to get to 30,000. That's only 107 less than Kobe.
12-05-2012, 10:03 PM   #27
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Re: How Kobe stacks up vs other 30000 point scorers

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 Originally Posted by 28renyoy Nope. I took out their poor efficiency/scoring numbers from early on in their career's. The players they are today will effect how soon they reach 30k, not the players they were when they were rookies. For instance: Over the past 5 years, LeBron has had an average TS% of 59.2. For his career, he's at 56.8%. This season he's at 58.7%. Recent trends>>>>Total

Oh, hilarious. Because when I did my calculations I got the EXACT same numbers as you on LeBron and Durant. So quit talking out of your ass.

12-05-2012, 10:03 PM   #28
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Re: How Kobe stacks up vs other 30000 point scorers

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 Originally Posted by B-hoop Do that list but with how many years in the league each player had

Father time works on age not years in the league.

12-05-2012, 10:03 PM   #29
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Re: How Kobe stacks up vs other 30000 point scorers

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 Originally Posted by 28renyoy Nope. I took out their poor efficiency/scoring numbers from early on in their career's. The players they are today will effect how soon they reach 30k, not the players they were when they were rookies. For instance: Over the past 5 years, LeBron has had an average TS% of 59.2. For his career, he's at 56.8%. This season he's at 58.7%. Recent trends>>>>Total

Nope. Because, statistically, they may never be this efficient again.

For example, stupid, Michael Jordan. The year the Bulls won their second title he had his lowest PPG average in 6 years. And he took .3 more shots per game than the year before, while scoring 1.4PPG less. Between 88/89 and 89/90, his shots per game jumped higher than his PPG (1.8 to 1.1). His career high in points to shot was 88/89, followed by 87/88 AND his rookie season, just behind. Well, his efficiency technically got worse.

So, it seems like your argument is full of shit. But please, go ahead and tell me how I'm wrong.

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 12-05-2012, 10:05 PM #30 The Macho Man Randy Savage     Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Head Game Al Snow Posts: 2,079 Re: How Kobe stacks up vs other 30000 point scorers Deandre Jordan on pace to do it in 19,867 shots

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