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12-05-2012, 10:05 PM   #31
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Re: How Kobe stacks up vs other 30000 point scorers

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 Originally Posted by c3z4r I find this to be very flawed because you don't factor in 3pointers, which are included into FGA, and free-throw attempts, which don't count as a FGA. I mean, for example, Lebron is currently shooting a career low free-throws, so if this trend continues he'll have to take more FGA to compensate for the lack of free-throws points. Edit: I wasn't asking because I don't know how to calculate, but rather because a simple calculation won't do.

If you want to do a total calculation, scaling for FTA, then it would be

30k-total points scored=y=points needed for 30k

y/(ppg average for recent trend say 4 years)=X=games needed for 30k

(.44*FTA averaged during trend)+(FGA averaged during trend)=Z=average shots needed per game to reach 30k

X*Z=N=shots needed to reach 30k=N

(Career FTA*.44 + Career FGA)+N=total shots needed to reach 30k points

12-05-2012, 10:06 PM   #32
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Re: How Kobe stacks up vs other 30000 point scorers

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 Originally Posted by Yao Ming's Foot The greatest trick Kobe ever pulled was making his longevity look easy. The large majority of players dont stay this good this long.

Durant is secretly 7 feet tall. And people just ASSUME Durant will be the goat scorer even though the dude is running like a racing horse right now, how will he even match what he's doing now in the next 6 years? You can't compare the legs of a 6'6 guard to a 7 footer

 12-05-2012, 10:07 PM #33 D.J. College superstar     Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Astoria, NY Posts: 4,962 Re: How Kobe stacks up vs other 30000 point scorers As mentioned earlier, Kobe's longevity is insane. This is Kobe's 17th season and he's averaging 28/5/5. Here's the few others who come close in their 17th season: Kareem- 23/6/3+ Malone- 22/8+/4/2
12-05-2012, 10:08 PM   #34
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Re: How Kobe stacks up vs other 30000 point scorers

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 Originally Posted by c3z4r I find this to be very flawed because you don't factor in 3pointers, which are included into FGA, and free-throw attempts, which don't count as a FGA. I mean, for example, Lebron is currently shooting a career low free-throws, so if this trend continues he'll have to take more FGA to compensate for the lack of free-throws points. Edit: I wasn't asking because I don't know how to calculate, but rather because a simple calculation won't do.

Well you don't need to include free throws attempted because if OP is referring to purely the number of field goals attempted then you only need to calculate these guys based on their field goals attempted. Obviously it makes LeBron/Durant's pace look MUCH better than Kobe's if they get more free throws than he did.

 12-05-2012, 10:08 PM #35 bluechox2 #knickstape     Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: NYC Posts: 9,800 Re: How Kobe stacks up vs other 30000 point scorers who cares how many shots he needed...he got there and congrats
12-05-2012, 10:10 PM   #36
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Re: How Kobe stacks up vs other 30000 point scorers

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 Originally Posted by pejavelin DUMB THREAD because historically S Guards have better FG% than Centers and pf. hes not too far from mj in fga and mj was a beast. just being in that group is an honor.

How dare you try to bring common sense into a good ole Kobe hating thread.

 12-05-2012, 10:11 PM #37 pnyozzzoo Great young streetballer   Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 562 Re: How Kobe stacks up vs other 30000 point scorers According to ESPN stats guy, Kobe shots more shots Per minute than Allen Iverson, I think thats highest ever?
 12-05-2012, 10:11 PM #38 Mr. Jabbar Xmas MVP     Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Staples Center Posts: 13,262 Re: How Kobe stacks up vs other 30000 point scorers He also reached the 30k milestone holding 5 rings, how did the other ones fare when at that milestone
 12-05-2012, 10:11 PM #39 Yao Ming's Foot You're welcome     Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 3,975 Re: How Kobe stacks up vs other 30000 point scorers Kobe currently has more career points than Lebron and Durant COMBINED
12-05-2012, 10:13 PM   #40
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Re: How Kobe stacks up vs other 30000 point scorers

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 Originally Posted by Whoah10115 Nope. Because, statistically, they may never be this efficient again. For example, stupid, Michael Jordan. The year the Bulls won their second title he had his lowest PPG average in 6 years. And he took .3 more shots per game than the year before, while scoring 1.4PPG less. So, it seems like your argument is full of shit. But please, go ahead and tell me how I'm wrong.

You're an idiot

Player A averages
5.0 ppg year 1
7.0 ppg year 2
11.0 ppg year 3
16.0 ppg year 4
22.0 ppg year 5
25.0 ppg year 6
23.0 ppg year 7

His average for these 7 years were 15.2 ppg

After averaging 23.3 ppg over the past 3 years, you would expect him to average 15.2 ppg in year 8?

12-05-2012, 10:13 PM   #41
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Re: How Kobe stacks up vs other 30000 point scorers

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 Originally Posted by Mr. Jabbar He also reached the 30k milestone holding 5 rings, how did the other ones fare when at that milestone

Durant is on pace to win 0 rings, the KING maybe 2 at best.

12-05-2012, 10:15 PM   #42
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Re: How Kobe stacks up vs other 30000 point scorers

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 Originally Posted by Yao Ming's Foot Kobe currently has more career points than Lebron and Durant COMBINED

12-05-2012, 10:16 PM   #43
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Re: How Kobe stacks up vs other 30000 point scorers

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 Originally Posted by DStebb716 PS- His Michael Jordan number is false. It took MJ 22,956 shots to get to 30,000. That's only 107 less than Kobe.

Must be his Wizards years.

12-05-2012, 10:16 PM   #44
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Re: How Kobe stacks up vs other 30000 point scorers

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 Originally Posted by Yao Ming's Foot Durant is on pace to win 0 rings, the KING maybe 2 at best.

 12-05-2012, 10:17 PM #45 swag2011 High School Starter   Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 831 Re: How Kobe stacks up vs other 30000 point scorers I hope this takes into account that Kobe is the ONLY 30,000+ scorer to play through 2 LOCKOUT seasons. Back in 99 the season didn't start till February ( would've been an all star again too) and just last year season didn't start till christmas. If last season was a full season he would've been hit 30k

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