The f*ck is this shit, Goodell?

[StateProperty]

http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?storyId=8720551

[franchise#3]

WTF

[Real Men Wear Green]

When they figure out a set of rules that gives us 50-point games with two-hand touch they'll finally be satisfied.

[TheSilentKiller]

4th and 15 is so much easier to convert than an onside kick. They really should just start playing flag football with any contact being a 15 yard penalty.

[niko]

If they don't want to have kickoffs don't have kickoffs. Where the 4th and 15 comes in though is beyond me.

[kentatm]

this is the kind of of shit that would cause me to start losing interest in the league.

I already like college football more as it is.

[-p.tiddy-]

Originally Posted by TheSilentKiller

4th and 15 is so much easier to convert than an onside kick. They really should just start playing flag football with any contact being a 15 yard penalty.

no it isn't, I saw stats on it they are both roughly around 20% odds

"surprise" onside kicks actually have a 60% chance of being successful though


but converting a 4th and 15, and a onside kick that the return team is aware of, is roughly the same odds


and I actually think running a 15 yard conversion would be more exciting to watch an onside kick

I'm not ready to call this idea horrible yet...

[tpols]

This would make for some awesome comebacks.

A player like Brady or brees would definitely have a better chance at getting a first on fourth and 15 then letting their team go for an onside kick.

[-p.tiddy-]

14th and 15 is hard for any QB to convert...facing a dime defense that is basically in prevent formation...not easy

[jazz873]

Keep kick offs and have an option of 4th and 15 instead of an onside kick

[QUIZZLE]

National Pussy League

[DuMa]

oh god no please.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Originally Posted by kentatm

this is the kind of of shit that would cause me to start losing interest in the league.

I already like college football more as it is.

If the NFL does it as some kind of safety measure the NCAA will follow suit.

[-p.tiddy-]

Originally Posted by jazz873

Keep kick offs and have an option of 4th and 15 instead of an onside kick

no because then you couldn't ever do a surprise onsides kick, since that would be ruled out

if they have it in punt formation then teams could do a fake punt at times for 15 yards...

[Just2McFly]

Never liked this guy from day one