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Old 12-10-2012, 01:15 AM   #16
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Default Re: This laker team proves stars have little to do with winning titles

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Its a team team

Coaching/Defense/rebounding/chemistry/depth/durability wins championships...


Watching my team this year has made me wake up and realise my idol kobe bryant and other legends throughout history were just lucky to be in the right position to succeed. It helps to be great. But its a team game. Teams win championships... I no longer care how many titles individuals have

Irs a sad day when you realise all the hero drama/hype was just some made up movie script invented in order to add spice to a game where 90% of its players are an afterthought.

Well i for one am no longer interested in jordans or kobes or wilts or lebrons...

Now its about lakers and bulls and celtics and spurs

LOL what he hell. You act like the Lakers haven't won numerous championships with stars. You act like your idol Kobe hasn't won numerous championships. It's still a star driven league bro, but fit and playing style is a determining factor in success.
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Old 12-10-2012, 01:18 AM   #17
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Default Re: This laker team proves stars have little to do with winning titles

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So why didn't Sloan get a title?

David Stern got in the way.
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Old 12-10-2012, 01:30 AM   #18
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Default Re: This laker team proves stars have little to do with winning titles

All things being equal, the team with the stars will win, especially with how the league is officiated.. but there are more important things than just having stars.
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Old 12-10-2012, 01:34 AM   #19
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Nah. Stars can get it done. Just not the Lakers stars.

Wade wasnt even that great. It was allot due to the stars. But the difference is guys like miller, chalmers, battier all stepping up with 25+ point games and their bench/ defense being strong.

And chemistry was great

If its all about stars then they woulda won in 2011... 2012 they won as a team
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Old 12-10-2012, 02:45 AM   #20
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Wade wasnt even that great. It was allot due to the stars. But the difference is guys like miller, chalmers, battier all stepping up with 25+ point games and their bench/ defense being strong.

And chemistry was great

If its all about stars then they woulda won in 2011... 2012 they won as a team
Can't believe I'm saying this, but I agree. Wade, though, was pretty solid for a number two option on a championship team. LeBron averaged 30-10-6-2 in the playoffs and Wade averaged 23-5-4-2-1 in the playoffs. In the Finals LeBron averaged 29-10-7-2 and Wade averaged 23-6-5-1-1. Not to mention Bosh averaged 14-8-1 in the playoffs (didn't have much of an impact until the very end of the ECF and Finals, though, due to injury) and 14-8-1 in the Finals. That's really, really good for a championship team's top three players, and those three players were also superstar/All-Star caliber players. That's similar to the numbers the Bulls got from Jordan, Pippen, and Grant; but without Paxson, Armstrong, Cartwright, etc. they don't win three in a row.

But yes, what you said is true. The difference in the Finals is that, at different times, Battier, Chalmers, Miller, and even Cole stepped up and had a big game or two, while OKC's role players, outside of Durant and Westbrook, didn't "show-up."
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:19 AM   #21
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Okay. So Miami getting two all-stars, and being able to make two straight Finals appearances and win one is not an example of stars having to do something with winning titles? Mind boggling.

Two Allstars, matter of fact three all stars is still a team. He's right.....ur not going to get handed a championship by getting together....
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great point.

now you can fix your avatar and give lebron about 3 rings for carrying that sorry ass Cleveland team into the playoffs while he was there.

(To be fair, Kobe gets one too for carrying the likes of Smush Parker, Luke Walton, and Kwame Brown on his back to the playoffs).
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Default Re: This laker team proves stars have little to do with winning titles

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So why didn't Sloan get a title?

Too many scrubs and not enough solid players who really stood out besides Stockton and Malone.
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Default Re: This laker team proves stars have little to do with winning titles

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great point.

now you can fix your avatar and give lebron about 3 rings for carrying that sorry ass Cleveland team into the playoffs while he was there.

(To be fair, Kobe gets one too for carrying the likes of Smush Parker, Luke Walton, and Kwame Brown on his back to the playoffs).

Difference is Kobe was to blame for who he had helping him. He thought he could do it alone without Shaq and Phil.
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