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Old 12-14-2012, 10:03 AM   #31
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So many possibilities for our existence that it's laughable to hear people talk about something from nothing (big bang) as factual. Our lives and world around us is infinite and always has been. Time is just merely a man-made creation in his aid to keep track of things.

I think in death comes the true revelation. Our natural curiosity and thirst for knowledge extends far beyond the realms of this world and will never ever be quenched.
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Old 12-14-2012, 10:50 AM   #32
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This is depressing.
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Old 12-14-2012, 10:53 AM   #33
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We're real if we believe we are.
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Old 12-14-2012, 11:38 AM   #34
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I'll answer the question of "are we real?" with basic linguistics:



What does the word "real" really mean? If we are a simulation, couldn't we still be [what we define as] real?

After all WE are the one's who made the word, so as we define ourselves. We are REAL- a word that only applies to this universe and nothing beyond our own comprehension.


*Damn, my head hurts now
That's just tautology. If we define us as anything then the statement "we are ____" is true in any case. The only thing we know is that we are thinking, what is doing the thinking is not certain. We can label that thinking as "We" or "I" but we do not know if it is corporeal or just a computer simulation.
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Old 12-14-2012, 12:15 PM   #35
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I am, therefore I think.

I think I am, therefore I am, I think.
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Old 12-14-2012, 12:24 PM   #36
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this really should not be a debate about what the word "real" means and more of a debate about weather or not we are created/simulated by some other intelligent life of some sort...
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Old 12-14-2012, 01:11 PM   #37
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And time is a real tangible thing.


Time by definition is intangible.
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Old 12-14-2012, 01:11 PM   #38
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What the hell does that mean? You're saying that like it's factual

And time is a real tangible thing.
What do you mean tangible? Define and explain please.
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Old 12-14-2012, 01:13 PM   #39
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time is on a plane, speed varies according to where you are near it, etc

it has been shown that black holes are strong enough to suck in time correct? or maybe that is a theory, idk

in that sense it is tangible
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Time by definition is intangible.
Time has many definitions.
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Old 12-14-2012, 01:14 PM   #41
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Time has many definitions.
Which means that I am not incorrect.
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Old 12-14-2012, 01:15 PM   #42
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NDEers talk about time a lot...how there is no time in the after life, that past, present, future are all happen at once...that a millisecond and billion years are the same thing, etc

they say everything has already played out here, we are just going through the steps
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time is on a plane, speed varies according to where you are near it, etc[


it has been shown that black holes are strong enough to suck in time correct? or maybe that is a theory, idk

in that sense it is tangible
It depends on what definition of time. It can most definitely be defined as a physical concept between a reference and an event, but that wouldn't be calling it "tangible." You could define it mathematically in order to make the speed of light constant in every frame of reference. If you want to read more about this google 4 velocity. Also, spacetime bending, sucking, etc. is just a structural description of gravitational fields, not an existential statement.
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Old 12-14-2012, 01:21 PM   #44
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Old 12-14-2012, 01:22 PM   #45
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It depends on what definition of time. It can most definitely be defined as a physical concept between a reference and an event, but that wouldn't be calling it "tangible." You could define it mathematically in order to make the speed of light constant in every frame of reference. If you want to read more about this google 4 velocity. Also, spacetime bending, sucking, etc. is just a structural description of gravitational fields, not an existential statement.
it isn't thought that black holes can literally bend or warp time?
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