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Old 12-14-2012, 07:14 PM   #16
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Default Re: Tim Duncan reestablishing himself as best big man in NBA

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If ranked as a PF, he's ranked #1.

If ranked as a C, I would put him at #3 behind Kareem and Wilt. #4 would be Shaq, #5 would be Hakeem.

I wonder who's missing? hmmmmm
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Old 12-14-2012, 07:20 PM   #17
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Wait, so is he a center or power forward? Will we ever know?

He played PF for the majority of his career and guys like McHale, Shaq, Robinson, Sloan, Ramsay, and so many others regards him as the GOAT PF.

If you ask me, it's not that hard to wrap your head around, but I understand many fans on ISH haven't been watching him that long and/or were young when Duncan was notching MVP's. I've been watching him since day 1 and he definitely played like a typical PF. People today think the average PF is Kevin Love or Dirk Nowitzki though. Duncan's full time move to center is entirely age related and wear-and-tear. Simply put, the guy is old. Centers in today's game = easier to guard.

Anyways, Duncan is the man.

Check out this game winning fadeaway over Karl Malone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWqwvE5KVW8
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Old 12-14-2012, 07:41 PM   #18
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Default Re: Tim Duncan reestablishing himself as best big man in NBA

The issue with Duncan is simple and like I always say. Had another team drafted him, he would have played C. Had Robinson decided to retire, Duncan would have played C. But Robinson was there so Duncan played PF. He pretty much played like a C. That's why they were the Two Towers. Robinson retired but Duncan didn't want to move from PF so they signed Nesterovic and Duncan stayed a PF for 4 years. Sometime during 07/08 Duncan started to mix it up more. In 08/09 he moved to C. That's the story.



When ranking Duncan, he should be ranked as a PF. That's where he's played the bulk of his career and that's where he's played his best ball. Now, he's most certainly a C. But for his career, it's obvious.


Hell, if Amare continued to play C throughout his career then we'd have to consider considering him as a C.
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Old 12-14-2012, 07:58 PM   #19
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Default Re: Tim Duncan reestablishing himself as best big man in NBA

Don't forget about Nazr Mohammed and Fabricio Oberto. Duncan played PF next to centers who were definitely inferior to Robinson - and that was 10 seasons into his career.



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Default Re: Tim Duncan reestablishing himself as best big man in NBA

Malone's Jazz did get the better of the Spurs during the 90's, going 4-0 in playoff seriers, but that was a cool game winner.
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Old 12-14-2012, 09:10 PM   #21
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If ranked as a PF, he's ranked #1.

If ranked as a C, I would put him at #3 behind Kareem and Wilt. #4 would be Shaq, #5 would be Hakeem.


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Is he GOAT center?
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I haven't seen many Spurs games, but i hope your claims are not being made because you see his stats at 30 minutes per game and are extrapolating that to 40 minutes per game...it doesn't work like that.

If he was forced to play 40 minutes per game, he'd have to lower his energy level and he won't get his valuable rest time on the bench. His overall production per minute would go down immensely.

Duncan is putting up these numbers in 30.4 mins:

17.8 pts / 10.2 rebs / 2.4 asst / 0.8 stl / 2.6 blks / 51.3%FG / 79.2%FT / 1.6 TO / 1.8 PF

which is comparable to Dwight Howard's in 36.7 mins:

18.2 pts / 11.9 reb / 1.9 asst / 1.0 stl / 2.6 blks / 57.9%FG / 49.2%FT / 3.3 TO / 3.7 PF
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