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Old 12-14-2012, 07:33 PM   #16
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yeah, and this one doesn't help the people claiming guns are the issue

heard this brought up several times today
how doesnt it help. 22 injured kids. vs dead kids. a gun allows a psychopath to create a much larger swath of destruction. If the guy in Conn had a knife, how many lives would be lost? Obviously its bigger than gun control, but the fact that I can buy a 30 round assault rifle (only intent is to kill people) off walmart.com allows them a much more deadly avenue for their psychosis.

As others have pointed out, every other country has had something like this. The difference is, it generally creates a change in law. We allow it to happen again and again. The list of mass shootings since 2005 is over 62 pages long. We dont even remember the mass shootings before columbine anymore. If you think this has nothing to do with the ease of access for anyone to get their hands on a gun whose sole purpose is taking the life of another human, there is something wrong with you.
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Old 12-14-2012, 07:34 PM   #17
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Rediculous topic. Lets not pretend that this would go down on a regular basis in the US. Dude would have been tackled or jumped to death. I can't count how many videos i've seen in China where a child is getting ran over by a dozen cars or some other brutal attack and the asian people just carry on with their day.

Americans may have depression issues, but we don't let shit like that go down. So take this topic and shove it, Flagrant.
you really dont have a leg to stand on. Remember the guy on the bus in Canada? People get beat and raped while others ignore their cries for help all the time in this country.
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Old 12-14-2012, 07:45 PM   #18
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osaka_school_massacre

Similar incident, 8 kids killed with a knife, 13 others wounded
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Old 12-14-2012, 09:45 PM   #19
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Default Re: Man slashes 22 children near China school

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You didn't make this topic because its a tragedy with this man did, but to combat any arguments about more gun control. Children woke up this morning expecting to get out of school and go watch The Hobbit this weekend and all some people care to do is defend their political stance.
Wow, interesting mind you have there. Sorry to burst your bubble but none of that crossed my mind, just felt like sharing a crazy story in the OTC.

Like this thread: http://insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=284384

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Old 12-15-2012, 03:57 AM   #20
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Extremely sad on how these mass murders and violent rampages happen more often now

And also shows how a ban for guns won't solve the problem.
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Old 12-15-2012, 05:11 AM   #21
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Default Re: Man slashes 22 children near China school

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osaka_school_massacre

Similar incident, 8 kids killed with a knife, 13 others wounded

Are you stupid? The incident you linked to was in 2001.

How many mass shootings have we had here since 2001.

I'll wait for you to google it..
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Old 12-15-2012, 06:44 AM   #22
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Chinese are more fcked up than Americans are...god damn
I don't know, we seem to get massive killing sprees once or twice a year. Other countries seem to have these kinds of news once every 5 years. But then again we don't always hear news from overseas everyday unless it's something really big.

One thing you can say, most of the these senseless mass murderers are white and to a lesser degree Asians.
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Old 12-15-2012, 07:26 AM   #23
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I don't know, we seem to get massive killing sprees once or twice a year. Other countries seem to have these kinds of news once every 5 years. But then again we don't always hear news from overseas everyday unless it's something really big.

One thing you can say, most of the these senseless mass murderers are white and to a lesser degree Asians.
And most of the gang related shooters are black or latino. There are stupid, crazy people in every race.

White psychos are implosive, they hold all that anger inside then go on a rampage. Blacks/latinos are more explosive, let frustrations out more often and shoot each other for colors.

Though they are all just mentally damaged teenagers and young adults lashing out. They got nothing on some of those ruthless monsters in Mexico, Africa or Russia that behead/dismember people on daily basis and just live a savage life.
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Old 12-15-2012, 07:42 AM   #24
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And most of the gang related shooters are black or latino. There are stupid, crazy people in every race.

White psychos are implosive, they hold all that anger inside then go on a rampage. Blacks/latinos are more explosive, let frustrations out more often and shoot each other for colors.

Though they are all just mentally damaged teenagers and young adults lashing out. They got nothing on some of those ruthless monsters in Mexico, Africa or Russia that behead/dismember people on daily basis and just live a savage life.
Yeah, passive-aggressive behavior seems to fit more associated with whites and Asians. I think some of the social stereotype behavior fit it too. i.e. blacks are stereotyped as loud, confrontational, extroverted, while Asians are more quite, shy, kept-to-self, and whites are a mixture of both.

It's an interesting correlation, I think. It'd make a good research paper.
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Old 12-15-2012, 10:55 AM   #25
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Yeah, passive-aggressive behavior seems to fit more associated with whites and Asians. I think some of the social stereotype behavior fit it too. i.e. blacks are stereotyped as loud, confrontational, extroverted, while Asians are more quite, shy, kept-to-self, and whites are a mixture of both.

It's an interesting correlation, I think. It'd make a good research paper.

Any psychologist, doctor, or scientist who even starts a rough draft of such paper would lose all credibility in the United States. I won't debate this point. If you disagree, just try to see how many credible men/women have written reports and the like about character differences in races, then come back and post your findings. And by credible, I mean someone who people will take seriously. Also, don't look for people from the racist past. I'm talking about recent professionals in the field. People of the past 3 generations or so.


Anyway, I hate debating about gun control, but yesterday's tragic event has changed my stance completely. I used to believe guns should be accessible to everyone who feels they need it for their protection, but that's just idiotic. Why are we allowed to purchase assault rifles, uzis, etc.? These guns can let off dozens of shots in a matter of seconds, killing or severely wounding anyone they make contact with.

If this Chinese incident tells us anything, it's this:
If the guy in Connecticut had a knife, 18 little kids wouldn't be dead today.

Guns don't kill people, people do, right? No gun demands a man to pull the trigger, but people do it all too often. And because there are so many psychopaths in the world, and it's hard to figure out which of the 7 billion of us are ready to snap and go on a shooting spree at any given second, I think it'd be wise for guns to be outlawed entirely. Only those with real jobs requiring a gun for protection should have one, e.g. cops, military, armed guards, etc.
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Gun control: because murderers follow the law



Controlling alcohol during prohibition made it nearly impossible to get drunk

Marijuana being illegal= so hard to find weed. Especiallyyyy in the suburbs, kids have like 0 connections out there


In England there are STRICT gun laws. They still had the cumbria shooting, hungerford massacre. Did it stop the Dunblane school massacre? Where 16 little kids were killed? No. People making an agenda out of this are annoying as hell. Mental Health is the serious issue here and the meds they give out, not guns.
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Old 12-15-2012, 11:26 AM   #28
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Gun control: because murderers follow the law



Controlling alcohol during prohibition made it nearly impossible to get drunk

Marijuana being illegal= so hard to find weed. Especiallyyyy in the suburbs, kids have like 0 connections out there


In England there are STRICT gun laws. They still had the cumbria shooting, hungerford massacre. Did it stop the Dunblane school massacre? Where 16 little kids were killed? No. People making an agenda out of this are annoying as hell. Mental Health is the serious issue here and the meds they give out, not guns.
this argument doesnt really work when you look at the world. Look at gun-associated crimes in canada or england or Australia (after the school shooting in tasmania) or anywhere else. It clearly reduces gun violence.


Why should you be able to buy an assault rifle (a weapon with the sole purpose of killing other people) at walmart? Or at a gun show with no waiting period? I am a gun owner, and I support the restriction of assault rifle sales.
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Old 12-15-2012, 11:27 AM   #29
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I don't know, we seem to get massive killing sprees once or twice a year. Other countries seem to have these kinds of news once every 5 years. But then again we don't always hear news from overseas everyday unless it's something really big.

One thing you can say, most of the these senseless mass murderers are white and to a lesser degree Asians.
actually, very few countries other than china (which are mostly knifings and we know how ****ed china is in regard to citizen support - I assume the same to be true for mental health uissues) have more than one of these events.
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this argument doesnt really work when you look at the world. Look at gun-associated crimes in canada or england or Australia (after the school shooting in tasmania) or anywhere else. It clearly reduces gun violence.


Why should you be able to buy an assault rifle (a weapon with the sole purpose of killing other people) at walmart? Or at a gun show with no waiting period? I am a gun owner, and I support the restriction of assault rifle sales.

I don't even own a gun, but I believe in the freedom to defend yourself from the government and other people. America was built on this. And this argument really doesn't work when you look at the world? 2011 Norway massacre? The multiple British shootings posted? Tasmania school shooting? Shit happens, people are sick. Murders will still happen and assault rifles will still be used by sickos, legally obtained or not. So when a sicko illegal obtains an assault rifle and comes at me, it's illegal for me to own something to hit him back with? ****outtahere
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