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Old 12-17-2012, 10:15 PM   #31
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Have you watched Kobe's interview with Stephen A. Smith?

He was actually very supportive of Gasol and his teammates. Please watch it if you haven't. Think it is one of his best interviews he has ever done.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STt32vWt20c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvKgswUiwWk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIqgOz_x8oI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSOpNu7c_Xg

Best Kobe interview I've ever seen.
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Old 12-17-2012, 10:15 PM   #32
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Close.

Kobe is the better offensive player while Jordan is better defensively, in this scenario. Jordan was still the best SG defender in the league by a pretty good margin that year so I'd probably give him the edge overall, but I do think Kobe's been better offensively.
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Old 12-17-2012, 10:17 PM   #33
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yep.

Like you, if Kobe doesn't get it this year, it just shows you where this award is heading.

Unless the Lakers' fortune changes very dramatically from now on, I don't see how anyone can make this claim with a straight face. You can't say a guy leading his team to a 11-14 record (with the best center in the game on his squad) is a serious candidate for MVP. He might have to settle for just a scoring title this year. But like I said before (including before this season started) if Kobe is still putting up 9-29 games when Nash and Gasol return, that's a terrible sign for the Lakers.
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Old 12-17-2012, 10:20 PM   #34
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Kobe is not playing better then Durant,Lebron, and even Melo. Stay off the crack.

Durant?...Career 2 assists per game and not too long ago this year he was at 2 assists per game?

Dude's not getting his team involved. If he gets the ball he's going to shoot it.

Thank goodness they have RW. Melo?...he's alright this year, the team is good.

Lebron?...sort of regressed when others have improved their year such as Kobe. Give Kobe some time with new system, coach and teammates.
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Old 12-17-2012, 10:35 PM   #35
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Durant?...Career 2 assists per game and not too long ago this year he was at 2 assists per game?

Dude's not getting his team involved. If he gets the ball he's going to shoot it.

Thank goodness they have RW. Melo?...he's alright this year, the team is good.

Lebron?...sort of regressed when others have improved their year such as Kobe. Give Kobe some time with new system, coach and teammates.

What do career numbers have to do with this year? Durant has been working on his all around game.
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Old 12-17-2012, 10:46 PM   #36
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yep.

Like you, if Kobe doesn't get it this year, it just shows you where this award is heading.

If Kobe deserves the MVP this season then mj should have deserved MVP like every season from 87-98. Do u believe this to be true?
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Old 12-17-2012, 10:48 PM   #37
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Durant?...Career 2 assists per game and not too long ago this year he was at 2 assists per game?

Dude's not getting his team involved. If he gets the ball he's going to shoot it.

Thank goodness they have RW. Melo?...he's alright this year, the team is good.

Lebron?...sort of regressed when others have improved their year such as Kobe. Give Kobe some time with new system, coach and teammates.
does career numbers have to do with this year. Lj regressed? Wtf are u taking
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Old 12-17-2012, 11:39 PM   #38
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Watch Kobe this season and tell me with a straight face that he's as good as this player: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMzwS62NR9k

Come on dudes...
Looks like poor mans current Kobe to me..
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Looks like poor mans current Kobe to me..

You're lying to yourself. Kobe this season or even last season is nowhere close to the man seen in this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMzwS62NR9k
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Old 12-17-2012, 11:46 PM   #40
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Default Re: Kobe VS Jordan at age 34

its so funny how people use stats to try to discredit kobe,

"he shoots a low percentage"

"he takes 20 shots a game"

but then when they see stats like this they try desperately to rationalize against the use of statistics in anyway possible.

"jordan was nicer to his teammates."

"he had more leadership."

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Old 12-17-2012, 11:49 PM   #41
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Default Re: Kobe VS Jordan at age 34

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Kobe is not playing better then Durant,Lebron, and even Melo. Stay off the crack.
Melo????
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Old 12-17-2012, 11:53 PM   #42
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Close.

Kobe is the better offensive player while Jordan is better defensively, in this scenario. Jordan was still the best SG defender in the league by a pretty good margin that year so I'd probably give him the edge overall, but I do think Kobe's been better offensively.

Yup, so far anyway. Jordan played worst in terms of efficiency in his first 25 games. He got better as the season progress. Injuries and old age were the black cloud around the Bulls team that year, including Jordan.

Kobe is in similar situation as Jordan though. Pippen was the playmaker for the Bulls and Nash is supposed to be the playmaker for the Lakers, and both were injured and had to miss a lot of games. The Lakers just created a new team while the Bulls were just old and crippled. The Bulls was doing better than the Lakers in terms of team record though after 25 games in. Bulls had a winning record while the Lakers do not.

As another person said though, Jordan in 98 was 34/35. Jordan in 97 was 33/34. His BD was mid way in the season. He was 35 in the playoffs in 98. 34 in the playoffs in 97.

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So an MJ on his last legs was still good enough to win MVP, a championship, Finals MVP, scoring title, and even an ASG MVP?

Proves how much of a GOAT Jordan truly is. If he could do that on his last legs, imagine what he accomplished in his prime.
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Proves how much of a GOAT Jordan truly is. If he could do that on his last legs, imagine what he accomplished in his prime.

Lets be real, MJ would not have won it with Lebron and Durant playing the way they are
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its so funny how people use stats to try to discredit kobe,

"he shoots a low percentage"

"he takes 20 shots a game"

but then when they see stats like this they try desperately to rationalize against the use of statistics in anyway possible.

"jordan was nicer to his teammates."

"he had more leadership."

this

To all Jordan stans, no need to act insecure and create a lot of make up excuses to defend Jordan.. You all looks like desperate for Jordan nuts.. Just accept the fact that Kobe at age 34 is better than Jordan (same age) by far and move on..
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