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Old 12-25-2012, 03:28 AM   #61
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Default Re: Who would you build around - Blake Griffin or James Harden?

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The game of basketball is no longer played on a basketball court but in mathematical equations. LeBron is a shitty defender and Blake Griffin is top 25

but hey lets use logical and fair arguments.

Statistics are a support for what you watch, not a replacement. Even a Rockets fan just flat out called Harden an atrocious defender still where as non Clippers fans have been praising Griffin's D. So tell me again how there is no gap worth mentioning defensively moron?
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Old 12-25-2012, 03:31 AM   #62
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Statistics are a support for what you watch, not a replacement. Even a Rockets fan just flat out called Harden an atrocious defender still where as non Clippers fans have been praising Griffin's D. So tell me again how there is no gap worth mentioning defensively moron?

Because synergy sports says so.
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Old 12-25-2012, 03:53 AM   #63
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Default Re: Who would you build around - Blake Griffin or James Harden?

James Harden- Facilitator, Scorer, carries the load. Put him in a team with modest role players (Danny Green, Jeff Green) A PG who can put up 3's when the team needs it and a glass eating big man, and we got one hell of a team!!!
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Old 12-25-2012, 04:21 AM   #64
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Default Re: Who would you build around - Blake Griffin or James Harden?

Whoever would take Harden over Griffin would be possibly the worst GM the league would ever see. Griffin does so much more than his stats tell, with the hustle and energy he provides, the constant double teams he commands, and the easy layups he gets everyone because they'd rather give up a layup than move away from Griffin (for fear of an alley oop).

Griffin is the one that landed us Paul, and he's the one that changed this franchise around for good. He's only 23 years old and has a world of things to improve on to become even better.. And bigs are always more useful than explosive scorers. The league has like 18 different players you can classify as the same type of player as Harden.
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Old 12-25-2012, 06:04 AM   #65
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Default Re: Who would you build around - Blake Griffin or James Harden?

the hate towards blake is mind blowing

definitely a top 5 most hated athlete in the world
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Old 12-25-2012, 08:51 AM   #66
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the hate towards blake is mind blowing

definitely a top 5 most hated athlete in the world

No, they hate CF86 and they know that the dude has no life and he's obsessed with Griffin.

I like how he whines about defense when the difference is that James Harden is doing everything on offense and is the one creating 38 minutes per game compared to Griffin having the luxury of Paul's passing on offense while only playing 32 minutes per game.

And haha, Synergy nonsense, so suddenly BG's defense is equal to a top 25 defender, yeah right.
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Old 12-25-2012, 08:54 AM   #67
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the hate towards blake is mind blowing

definitely a top 5 most hated athlete in the world

Considering his previous flopping and tough-guy act I say it's definitely justified.
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Old 12-25-2012, 08:58 AM   #68
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Considering his previous flopping and tough-guy act I say it's definitely justified.

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Old 12-25-2012, 02:26 PM   #69
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Considering his previous flopping and tough-guy act I say it's definitely justified.

So the fact that he used to flop and is billed as this "fake tough-guy" in the minds of morons here justifies their stupidity?

Got it.
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Old 12-25-2012, 06:28 PM   #70
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Default Re: Who would you build around - Blake Griffin or James Harden?

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No, they hate CF86 and they know that the dude has no life and he's obsessed with Griffin.

I like how he whines about defense when the difference is that James Harden is doing everything on offense and is the one creating 38 minutes per game compared to Griffin having the luxury of Paul's passing on offense while only playing 32 minutes per game.

And haha, Synergy nonsense, so suddenly BG's defense is equal to a top 25 defender, yeah right.

Wow this post has so much fail in it. There's a reason Harden has to do everything on offense. Other than him, who's going to score on the Rockets? That's his role, to score.

Griffin only plays 32 minutes because the Clippers are blowing teams out. More than that, Griffin earns the good passes from Paul by running the fast breaks, having timely cuts, and he's making his midrange jumpers now too.

One is on a 13 game win streak, one is on a team that's 14-12. You guys overrate James Harden so much, it's ridiculous.
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Old 12-25-2012, 08:00 PM   #71
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Default Re: Who would you build around - Blake Griffin or James Harden?

Clippers fans are reaching Kobe fans worship levels/obnoxiousness. Must be something unique to Southern California.
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Old 12-25-2012, 08:10 PM   #72
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Default Re: Who would you build around - Blake Griffin or James Harden?

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Wow this post has so much fail in it. There's a reason Harden has to do everything on offense. Other than him, who's going to score on the Rockets? That's his role, to score.

Griffin only plays 32 minutes because the Clippers are blowing teams out. More than that, Griffin earns the good passes from Paul by running the fast breaks, having timely cuts, and he's making his midrange jumpers now too.

One is on a 13 game win streak, one is on a team that's 14-12. You guys overrate James Harden so much, it's ridiculous.

You don't seem very bight.

Yeah, the reason why Harden is doing at all on offense while being damn effective is due the fact that he's one hell of an offensive player. And again, yeah, BG only plays 32 minutes because his team is damn good but it also gives him the opportunity to spend less energy on offense while getting tons of passes by CP3. Harden has to create a great majority of his opportunities, BG, not so much.

And what has the winning streak to do with anything, put elite players next to Harden and you'll have a damn fine team too.

And this is a post from Clutchfans about how efficient he is;

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After struggling for a bit early in the season, Harden has now brought his TS% back up to .600 again. For those unfamiliar with the stat, it's one's "shooting percentage" once you account for FTs and extra credit for 3s.

For reference, amongst top-30 scorers in the NBA, or #1 options if you will.

1. Durant .654
2. Lebron .604
3. Mayo .602
4. Harden .600
5. Melo .590
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Old 12-25-2012, 08:40 PM   #73
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Default Re: Who would you build around - Blake Griffin or James Harden?

Wins - Harden
Sales - Griffin
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Old 12-25-2012, 08:58 PM   #74
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Default Re: Who would you build around - Blake Griffin or James Harden?

I take the guy who can score, playmake and create his own shot. James "The Beard" Harden.
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Old 12-25-2012, 09:00 PM   #75
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Wins - Harden
Sales - Griffin

I concur
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