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Old 12-27-2012, 12:02 AM   #16
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Wallace is a penetrator. He's built differently than Amar'e. He's not as tall, but has dexterity. Humps is just a rebounder and a goon that fits that NY style.

wallace can't handle the ball though ... knicks need someone who can get into the paint if felton's going to keep playing like crap. and i think humphries is pretty much useless (and a waste of money)
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Old 12-27-2012, 12:12 AM   #17
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Gerald Wallace can and does handle the ball. I don't know what you're talking about.
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Old 12-27-2012, 12:14 AM   #18
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Gerald Wallace can and does handle the ball. I don't know what you're talking about.

knicks need someone who can get into the paint and create for others off the dribble .... basically, they need a better point guard, gerald wallace does not fit that bill ...
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this happens and the nets are instantly the worst rebounding team in the NBA
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Old 12-27-2012, 12:28 AM   #20
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knicks need someone who can get into the paint and create for others off the dribble .... basically, they need a better point guard, gerald wallace does not fit that bill ...
Wallace had like 8 or 9 assists tonight. He's very capable of playing point forward.
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Wallace had like 8 or 9 assists tonight. He's very capable of playing point forward.

nahhhhh .... we need someone who can attack the paint off the pick and roll ... wallace can't maintain his dribble like that ...
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Old 12-27-2012, 12:46 AM   #22
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Gerald Wallace can handle the ball and is just fantastic...Melo would not be the 4 in this system. Gerald would be the tweener 4, tho they would alternate a little. Kidd would be the PG.


Amare is the best player in the group, if he's healthy and full Amare...but you lose a lot of rebounding at the 3, as I imagine you put Johnson at the 3...you still have Evans for 8 rebounds in 2 minutes off the bench...but I don't know.
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Old 12-27-2012, 12:52 AM   #23
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Nets and Knicks don't trade like that. Ever. Also I rather us focus on Paul Milsap.
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Old 12-27-2012, 01:32 AM   #24
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Give us D-Will for Millsap and you've got a deal.
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Old 12-27-2012, 01:57 AM   #25
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Knicks need a 2nd option. They need Amare. Not Gasol, Not Josh Smith.

Sure they score points, but they're overly reliant on Carmelo to open up their offense. When teams either take away Carmelo, or take away Tyson's pick and roll game like the teams with good centers tend to do (Dwight yesterday and Noah prior)...the Knicks struggle to get good looks.

In the postseason it would literally take a Dallas like run to win a championship. That's because of their offense. Unless they have a second dominant scorer like Amare, which IMO could make them actual favorites.

Fact is this current run is no different than if DWade or Lebron dropped off the Heat. In this case, Amare=Wade. Lebron and Bosh could carry the Heat and their pretty talented supporting cast through the East to a top record, but it would take a hell of a run without Wade in the playoffs. Same situation with Melo/Tyson/Felton....they are on a different level if they get Amare back healthy.
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Old 12-27-2012, 02:01 AM   #26
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Well even if it makes the best sense theres no way Nets and Knicks make a trade, you know its true.
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Old 12-27-2012, 02:04 AM   #27
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Knicks need a 2nd option. They need Amare. Not Gasol, Not Josh Smith.

Sure they score points, but they're overly reliant on Carmelo to open up their offense. When teams either take away Carmelo, or take away Tyson's pick and roll game like the teams with good centers tend to do (Dwight yesterday and Noah prior)...the Knicks struggle to get good looks.

In the postseason it would literally take a Dallas like run to win a championship. That's because of their offense. Unless they have a second dominant scorer like Amare, which IMO could make them actual favorites.

Fact is this current run is no different than if DWade or Lebron dropped off the Heat. In this case, Amare=Wade. Lebron and Bosh could carry the Heat and their pretty talented supporting cast through the East to a top record, but it would take a hell of a run without Wade in the playoffs. Same situation with Melo/Tyson/Felton....they are on a different level if they get Amare back healthy.




Gasol gets his own buckets and buckets for others.
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Old 12-27-2012, 03:28 AM   #28
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Give us D-Will for Millsap and you've got a deal.
i'll give you d-will for a box of soggy french fries at this point.


just about the only nets starter who looks like he wants to play these days is wallace.
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Old 12-27-2012, 08:27 AM   #29
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Default Re: Nets - Knicks Trade that makes too much sense

When will people realize that Melo doesn't like and doesn't want to play at the 4?

Melo on the perimeter is money, that gives him space to also attack the basket. Melo on the post gets blocked and misses layups after taking contact.

Yes lets keep Melo on the 4.


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Just went to check the 82games stats.

Melo shot selection
Jump - .546% efg
Close - .495% efg

He is shooting .750% on dunks lol Yep, he is perfect for the 4 spot.

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Old 12-27-2012, 08:30 AM   #30
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Nets and Knicks don't trade like that. Ever. Also I rather us focus on Paul Milsap.
Utah needs quality guards. I hear a lot from the Nets about getting Utah's bigs. What are you sending back?
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